Marvel vs DC--Quality of Story

so, maybe a bit of a fudged vs theme. i'd ask the mods' indulgence. this thread is designed to get an idea of which company is producing BETTER COMICS RIGHT NOW.

obviously it comes down to personal preference, but i'd ask you try supporting your opinion with some reasons. artists and writers are an obvious avenue, sales is clearly an option, but if you just really like one over the other, tell us why. is someone out there missing a truly great series?

the discussion is intended to start with current books, but i'd love to see it evolve to discuss books of the past as well. historically, has your opinion changed regarding the companies and the stories they tell? has your allegiance changed? who do you think has told the single best story in the last decade? couple of decades?

whatever. so long as the discussion stays civil and centered around quality of story, chime in. maybe you'll convince someone to try something new. 👆

Objectively?

Originally posted by leonidas
so, maybe a bit of a fudged vs theme. i'd ask the mods' indulgence. this thread is designed to get an idea of which company is producing BETTER COMICS RIGHT NOW.

obviously it comes down to personal preference, but i'd ask you try supporting your opinion with some reasons. artists and writers are an obvious avenue, sales is clearly an option, but if you just really like one over the other, tell us why. is someone out there missing a truly great series?

the discussion is intended to start with current books, but i'd love to see it evolve to discuss books of the past as well. historically, has your opinion changed regarding the companies and the stories they tell? has your allegiance changed? who do you think has told the single best story in the last decade? couple of decades?

whatever. so long as the discussion stays civil and centered around quality of story, chime in. maybe you'll convince someone to try something new. 👆

😂 My type of thread. Marvel, always. DC making some of the most mind boggling creative choices possible.

Marvel is winning and that's only by default because it just seems like since the beginning of that last justice league run with that lame ass perpetua storyline they have just been throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks. Marvel has been focusing on all it's sjw cookies instead of just writing good stories and now DC is trying the same bullshit.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Objectively?

The ibternet doesn’t have a facepalm big enough for you sometimes....

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Also, Leah Williams: She's currently heading up the X-factor Book and so far everything Leah has been doing has been great. She expanded "The Mojoverse" to be an entire universe under the control of Mojo and not one planet, and has been doing some great things with individual characters (rachels cronoskimming) she's been giving Polaris an actual personality and much needed character development as well as expanding on what Eye-boy is capable of which I absolutely love, shes EXTREMELY talented at working on characters and developing team dynamics (which is a reoccurring theme through most of the X-men books)

that sounds very promising. read the first couple issues of sword. i like where it's heading, no doubt. once this knull nonsense is done, i think that book can be very cool. hickman is doing some truly awesome things with mutants imo.

Hard to answer
I tend to prefer DC as I like stories which revolve around heroes who tend to deal with affairs out side of Earth, especially from the street levels. Marvel has more emphasis on earth affairs, while DC has their main heroes dealing with outside earth issues

That said, it doesn’t mean there aren’t stories that Marvel destroys DC in. Ie: I tend to like Thor and GotG more than most DC stories.

Lastly, DC tends to give their main heroes a lot of respect. You won’t see Superman or WW being treated badly by writers. There are a few cases (especially with the titles I follow) where they get the bad treatment IE Wonder Woman being shot and nearly killed by a bullet which gets deflected by Superman

Marvel? Nah! They give too much fan service to their street level characters which ends up ruining the big hitters like Thor and Hulk. It even became a meme with Thor at one point.

So I tend to prefer DC but not by a large margin.

Personally I like IDW or Valiant better. Marvel and DC are too event focused

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Hard to answer
I tend to prefer DC as I like stories which revolve around heroes who tend to deal with affairs out side of Earth, especially from the street levels. Marvel has more emphasis on earth affairs, while DC has their main heroes dealing with outside earth issues

That said, it doesn’t mean there aren’t stories that Marvel destroys DC in. Ie: I tend to like Thor and GotG more than most DC stories.

Lastly, DC tends to give their main heroes a lot of respect. You won’t see Superman or WW being treated badly by writers. There are a few cases (especially with the titles I follow) where they get the bad treatment IE Wonder Woman being shot and nearly killed by a bullet which gets deflected by Superman

Marvel? Nah! They give too much fan service to their street level characters which ends up ruining the big hitters like Thor and Hulk. It even became a meme with Thor at one point.

So I tend to prefer DC but not by a large margin.

What? plenty of space stories involving marvels hero's, but if you want more of that check out X-factor, New Mutants, S.W.O.R.D. various issues of X-men and X of swords. these are all recent past or ongoing.
As far as Space stories from before dawn of X, check out.
Black Vortex
Trial of Jean Grey
Eve of destruction
Breakworld
War of Kings
Brood Saga
Dark Phoenix Saga
This is just some from the X-men side
Plenty of other space epics that include the avengers for instance: The Builder War.

Oh and another one just came to mind Black Panther had a very long space arc called the "Intergalactic empire of Wakanda" or something similar.

the marvel maestro strikes again

I like DC's fantasy and cosmic series more, and those are the types of stories I prefer. Marvel's magic side is kinda weak compared to DC. Street levelers are about even, but DC has the king of streets, so...

tend to prefer DC as I like stories which revolve around heroes who tend to deal with affairs out side of Earth, especially from the street levels. Marvel has more emphasis on earth affairs, while DC has their main heroes dealing with outside earth issues

That said, it doesn’t mean there aren’t stories that Marvel destroys DC in.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
What? plenty of space stories involving marvels hero's, but if you want more of that check out X-factor, New Mutants, S.W.O.R.D. various issues of X-men and X of swords. these are all recent past or ongoing.
As far as Space stories from before dawn of X, check out.
Black Vortex
Trial of Jean Grey
Eve of destruction
Breakworld
War of Kings
Brood Saga
Dark Phoenix Saga
This is just some from the X-men side
Plenty of other space epics that include the avengers for instance: The Builder War.

Oh and another one just came to mind Black Panther had a very long space arc called the "Intergalactic empire of Wakanda" or something similar.

Yeah I read most of those. (Trail of Phoenix not sure)
The thing is I don’t like some of those characters. With DC, Green Lanterns (especially in 2005 to present), you can pick up any issue and it’s space stuff, with a good roster of character Hal, Kyle, guy..etc

I don’t have to wait for big epics like I do with Marvel

Wonder Woman is on Warworld. I am hoping that this leads to an epic story. I'm a big Conan of the Hyborean age fan. Conan has always entertained me, as long as they keep him away from mainstream Marvel titles like the Savage Avengers. Justice League Dark, Justice League, Superman, Hulk, Thor, and the Avengers are also titles that I look forward to reading. The Fantastic 4 is a hit or miss title.

The Last God is interesting, decent art as well.

Hard to answer
I tend to prefer DC as I like stories which revolve around heroes who tend to deal with affairs out side of Earth, especially from the street levels. Marvel has more emphasis on earth affairs, while DC has their main heroes dealing with outside earth issues

That said, it doesn’t mean there aren’t stories that Marvel destroys DC in. Ie: I tend to like Thor and GotG more than most DC stories.

Lastly, DC tends to give their main heroes a lot of respect. You won’t see Superman or WW being treated badly by writers. There are a few cases (especially with the titles I follow) where they get the bad treatment IE Wonder Woman being shot and nearly killed by a bullet which gets deflected by Superman

Marvel? Nah! They give too much fan service to their street level characters which ends up ruining the big hitters like Thor and Hulk. It even became a meme with Thor at one point.

So I tend to prefer DC but not by a large margin.

this a really interesting take. never really looked at it that way, but i can see your reasoning. i agree with almost all of this, especially the way marvel sometimes treats its big guns. dc goes TOO far the other way though, imo. everyone is treated like some uber cosmic--they are losing the relatability of their characters imo. i want the heroes GRAND, i don't want them all-powerful. there is still too large a difference between highs and lows in dc. when they show all their characters at these uber levels, when they don't perform at those levels ALL the time, it just seems...silly.

in general, using a term i hate--there is less overall sense of pis in marvel, imho. i also like the diversity in marvel a little more.

it's close, like you said, but i still like the more human characters in marvel, though i like the epicness of dc. at least currently. (though i really HATE what synder did with the league and the perpetua arc..... the worst writing of his career imo.)

Originally posted by leonidas
that sounds very promising. read the first couple issues of sword. i like where it's heading, no doubt. once this knull nonsense is done, i think that book can be very cool. hickman is doing some truly awesome things with mutants imo.

Yeah Hickman still manages to make fascinating stories and obstacles for Mutantkind and krakoa to overcome as part of his effort to bring the X-men back to their former glory and re-establish them as the dominant power on earth.

Yep Snyder and Cates should be written up, or fired altogether.

👍🏻 American vampire was sooooo damn good though....

Originally posted by leonidas
so, maybe a bit of a fudged vs theme. i'd ask the mods' indulgence. this thread is designed to get an idea of which company is producing BETTER COMICS RIGHT NOW.

obviously it comes down to personal preference, but i'd ask you try supporting your opinion with some reasons. artists and writers are an obvious avenue, sales is clearly an option, but if you just really like one over the other, tell us why. is someone out there missing a truly great series?

the discussion is intended to start with current books, but i'd love to see it evolve to discuss books of the past as well. historically, has your opinion changed regarding the companies and the stories they tell? has your allegiance changed? who do you think has told the single best story in the last decade? couple of decades?

whatever. so long as the discussion stays civil and centered around quality of story, chime in. maybe you'll convince someone to try something new. 👆

Every six months or so, I go back to see if things have improved from the last time I was disappointed. From the big two I pick up X-Men, Avengers, JL, Superman and Aquaman.

I've been disappointed since about 2015. And **** Hickman for getting me excited only to disappoint.