HOTU Thanos vs Darkest Knight

Started by Juntai2 pages

Originally posted by Enzeru
I'm gonna play devils advocate here:

Because having multiversal hax power does not automatically translate to having multiversal strength and durability.

Scarlet Witch has affected multiple realities with her hax power, but no one would ever argue that she could tank a punch from Superboy-Prime.
Put two Cyclops' against each other and their combined concussive heat vision would cause quite a lot of destruction, but no one would argue that Cyclops could tank a punch from an enraged Spider-Man. And Spider-Man himself does not have the destructive power output of Cyclops.

Didn't Wonder Woman grab a planet and punch the Darkest Knight in the face with it? And he was like: UUGHHH. Didn't the Celestials hurl planets and Infinity Gauntlet Thanos?

No one in comics is really above a brawl if the opponent is right.

Originally posted by Stoic
DK just got pulverized by Superboy Prime. That's simply not enough to defeat HOTU Thanos. DK seemed great on paper, but in combat left me wondering exactly why he was unable to defeat Superboy Prime? No master of reality, time, space, etc should've lost to Superboy. Gotta hand it to Snyder.
SBP in that arc could basically do whatever he wanted because he was aware he was in a comic. In his reality, everyone else was a comic character.
DK losing to him isn't a low showing. SBP is just that powerful.

DK had Manhattan's POWERS plus amped by Crises energy and we know Dr.Manhattan was Supreme being level.
I would say DK wins.

Originally posted by Juntai
No one in comics is really above a brawl if the opponent is right.
worst excuse ever, it’s laughable you think Thanos with the HOTU could be best by prime. It was shown no attack effected him physical or EP.

DK stomps this overrated fodder

Originally posted by Diesldude
SBP in that arc could basically do whatever he wanted because he was aware he was in a comic. In his reality, everyone else was a comic character.
DK losing to him isn't a low showing. SBP is just that powerful.

DK had Manhattan's POWERS plus amped by Crises energy and we know Dr.Manhattan was Supreme being level.
I would say DK wins.

Thanos with the HOTU would've erased Superboy Prime, or a number of other things. Superboy Prime's best fight was with Monarch. Darkest Knight was defeated by that level of opponent. It was all on panel. Thank Snyder for that.

Originally posted by Stoic
Thanos with the HOTU would've erased Superboy Prime, or a number of other things. Superboy Prime's best fight was with Monarch. Darkest Knight was defeated by that level of opponent. It was all on panel. Thank Snyder for that.

DK defeated perpetua who was above MXy.

Dr.Manhattan > mxy and DK has his powers while being amped by crises energy, that is way beyond monarch level.

Prime tortured mxy, beat up on dk that defeated perpetua. Altered reality with his punches. Was totally invulnerable To DK’s attacks. DK’s attack on ww sent them back in time. DK’s fight with perpetua was impacting all reality.

DK is BWL, he put out prepped everyone including perpetua, if he didn’t erase sbp it’s a safe bet to conclude that with alll of his power, he couldn’t, or he would have. SBP is the top dog in comics and dk losing to him isn’t a lie showing.

Yeah, not sure how SBP defeating DK indicates anything other than SBP solo”ing Marvel.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Yeah, not sure how SBP defeating DK indicates anything other than SBP solo”ing Marvel.

With his fists? Really? So we toss out the reality warping, going back in time to erase points in history, soul manipulation, overwhelming universal plus telepathy, power to wave a hand and wipe out an entire universe along with well established powerful heroes all the way up to the Abstracts that are the binding forces of reality? All because DK ripped Perpetua a new one? Who did DK defeat on this level? Who did Perpetua defeat on this level? We saw Superboy fight Monarch to a near draw, and since it's all canon, there isn't much room to unsee the event.

The problem arised the moment that DK was unable to banish Superboy Prime, or simply erase him from current events. This isn't something that HOTU Thanos would have trouble doing.

The best argument so far is one built upon faulty hierarchical tiering logic. That simply isn't enough to shore up DK, and Perpetua's combat history, or lack thereof, which was equally anticlimactic. Bringing Mxy into the mix doesn't help either, because as mighty as he is, he had trouble escaping Null Space to the point that it hurt him when he was duped into the trap by Mr. Oz.

How did he not see that before it happened? HOTU Thanos would've. Yet there are those that are quick to cite that Thanos at that time wasn't completely omniscient. Compare that to Snyder's lazy ass vision. What about DK, Perpetua, Mxy? Why weren't they able to see these things? My best guess is that the weren't omniscient at all. There seems to be quite a few discrepancies that many are either purposely glossing over, or simply haven't taken the time to objectively judge.

There are simply too many holes in Snyder's lacklustre creations. At this point, and from what I read of DK's final battle, I was left thinking that DK had more in his bag other than brick style fisticuffs.

For these reasons, HOTU Thanos should be more than able to defeat DK with ease.

It's a reason why comicvine, and majority of the marvel heads don't buy the wank stigma surrounding Prime because people don't want to acknowledge just how heavily inconsistent that mere One Shot is.

Originally posted by Stoic
Thanos with the HOTU would've erased Superboy Prime, or a number of other things. Superboy Prime's best fight was with Monarch. Darkest Knight was defeated by that level of opponent. It was all on panel. Thank Snyder for that.
The people Prime has been shown above are above Thanos in feats and scope, so your answer to that is simply that he didn't run into a character like that.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
It's a reason why comicvine, and majority of the marvel heads don't buy the wank stigma surrounding Prime because people don't want to acknowledge just how heavily inconsistent that mere One Shot is.
Comicvine has many people with different opinions just like anywhere, but they also don't mean anything in general, so I'm not sure why you brought it up.

The answer is simply to not use him in threads like that, because clearly they don't care about levels when he's on the page. I mean, they rarely do anyways, but its kind of crazy with him.

comicvine's average age is 15, nobody takes them seriously

DK.

Darkest Knight.