Is Superman (PC) in the Skyfather tier ?

Is Superman pre-crisis in the Skyfather tier ?

Yes and likely above it as well but he also had very clear weaknesses.

Pre-Crisis? Probably yeah. With some of his crazier feats you could argue a pretty high tier of it. He also has hax like a lot of Skyfathers.

Physically he is, but defensively he isn't. I'm referring to the times that magic has hindered his performance.

Originally posted by Stoic
Physically he is, but defensively he isn't. I'm referring to the times that magic has hindered his performance.

Originally posted by DantasKEdc
Is Superman pre-crisis in the Skyfather tier ?

Hell no. He'd be 2 steps below Surfer

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Hell no. He'd be 2 steps below Surfer

He's not there. I would 100% put him in high Trans tier though. At the peak of it.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Well, Celestials can be one-shot killed by random spells from Odin. Should we place them in a lower tier? (Of course without taking into account the trash showings they've been getting ever since Thanos Imperative)

That depends entirely on the Celestial. Sky Father's have ways of countering spells with their own. Superman would definitely be up there if he had the powers of Dr. Fate. I find it weird that you take offense at my previous comment, but not at people placing Superman at High Abstract levels? Strange aint it?

P.C Superman is FAR more vulnerable to magic than a Celestial. There's a huge difference.

Originally posted by DantasKEdc
Is Superman pre-crisis in the Skyfather tier ?

😆

Again with the Superman lowballing.

Oh, the dude who sneezed away a galaxy, pushed earth beyond ftl speed, chained several planets together and causually hauled them away.

Yeah he’s beyond Skyfathers I’d say.