Black Panther runs the Gauntlet

Originally posted by Vanguard
I don’t know about it stopping [B]hard at 1. But I could see him losing to Spiderman. It’s been a while since I’ve seen TChalla lose to anyone lately and Ive been looking closely since 2016 or so.

He does things like this now.

KO that symbiote Rhino with one amped punch and then cleared the battlefield. He even has magic on his side when he chooses to use it. [/B]

👆 what Style said. No magic, no tech, no glowy fist, no suit that stores energy etc etc.

So if you can see him losing to Spidey, WITH all his tech/magic etc, then without it....oof.

Originally posted by marcssands14
Fight to the death,H2H only. Does BP clear it?

1.Spider Man
2.Daredevil
3.Bullseye
4.Batman
5.Iron Fist

Clears. Danny's the only one on that list that puts up remotely a fight, the others gets stomped.

In a fight to the death, I presume Parker will not be holding back.

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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
👆 what Style said. No magic, no tech, no glowy fist, no suit that stores energy etc etc.

So if you can see him losing to Spidey, WITH all his tech/magic etc, then without it....oof.

That means no webbing for Spiderman too then.

Originally posted by Vanguard
That means no webbing for Spiderman too then.

Nope.

But he still has his strength, spider sense, speed, agility etc. Hell, even his sticky hands, which have been used to rip faces, are still applicable to Spidey.

Unless you're of the opinion Spideys webshooters are a bigger aid to him than....all of Tchalla's gear and magic.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Nope.

But he still has his strength, spider sense, speed, agility etc. Hell, even his sticky hands, which have been used to rip faces, are still applicable to Spidey.

Unless you're of the opinion Spideys webshooters are a bigger aid to him than....all of Tchalla's gear and magic.

TChalla one of the best fighters on the planet without his gear and magic. Wrestles five ton animals to the ground and Cap feels like TChalla is his equal in skill.

And Spiderman.....fights heralds of Galactus without using webs lol.

Survives beatings from the strongest X-Men, amped by Elder Gods (or whatever Cytorrak is) AND 20% of the Phoenix Force.

Fights the Juggernaut in h2h.

5ton animals are nice, if we're going that way. But let's not go the extreme high ends, lol. Spidey would smoke Panther in high end showings.

That feat with the five ton Rhino is an old one. TChalla is stronger than that now.

Originally posted by Vanguard
That feat with the five ton Rhino is an old one. TChalla is stronger than that now.

Stronger than an Ultimate Nullifier? Firelord? Juggernaut? Colossus with Cytorrak amp and P5 amp?

Because none of them actually really put him down.

We don't even have to go high end. Average Spiderman throws around cars and uses armored military vehicles like baseball bats. Black Panther wrestling with a Rhino isn't comparable.

These are entirely different strength levels.

Yeah, 1 would be a hard sell even with gear.

And we saw how a fully geared up and prepped Panther vs Iron Fist went. It ended in an inoperable brain aneurysm for T'challa.

Originally posted by cdtm
Yeah, 1 would be a hard sell even with gear.

And we saw how a fully geared up and prepped Panther vs Iron Fist went. It ended in an inoperable brain aneurysm for T'challa.

With TChalla not being on the offensive and trying to subdue rather than overall dominate and he still won.

Besides this is about hand to hand with inherent stats. That’s what my feats of TChalla battling and wrestling animals on a regular is based on. And furthermore TChalla has tagged Spiderman on more than one occasion already. It wouldn’t be a “hard sell” for me to see TChalla winning, it’s possible.

And btw cars generally weigh less than five tons.

He put Iron Fist in a can instead of clawing his throat. And then planted a device to incapacitate him.

Originally posted by Vanguard
He put Iron Fist in a can instead of clawing his throat. And then planted a device to incapacitate him.

Everyones seen how well that worked by now. 😛

The device was never meant to incapacitate anyways, it was meant to clean his chi. Passing out was a side effect.

And he still ended up beaten within an inch of his life, and a long running and unresolved plot thread started where the beating was so severe, it caused brain damage that left him with a ticking time bomb brain inoperable aneurysm.

And all that was with PREP.

Originally posted by Vanguard
With TChalla not being on the offensive and trying to subdue rather than overall dominate and he still won.

Besides this is about hand to hand with inherent stats. That’s what my feats of TChalla battling and wrestling animals on a regular is based on. And furthermore TChalla has tagged Spiderman on more than one occasion already. It wouldn’t be a “hard sell” for me to see TChalla winning, it’s possible.

And btw cars generally weigh less than five tons.

Spiderman is stronger by a large, large margin.

Panther can match the others, but Spiderman is the wrong hill to die on bro. 👆

Originally posted by StyleTime
Yes, but I said Spiderman throws the cars. He tosses them around like we toss around chairs. That's well beyond wrestling a rhino(which is a bit overplayed anyway, but ultimately irrelevant tbh).

Spiderman is stronger by a large, large margin.

Panther can match the others, but Spiderman is the wrong hill to die on bro. 👆

Danny can match or exceed Spidey.

Davos was tanking his best shots. Sure, Spidey holds back, but he kept ramping it up, and he was also beat on speed (Spidey won't hold that back, he's not Superman)

And if someone says chi isn't in the rules, Spidey's spider powers should be inactive for this.

Originally posted by StyleTime

Panther can match the others, but Spiderman is the wrong hill to die on bro. 👆

You’re really high on the scrawny teenager. But okay. I tend to root for the grown man who’s experienced and groomed to be a warrior since birth. Low superhuman in his own right. Pressure points the shit outta Luke Cage and made him fold like a lawn chair when he wasn’t on the heart shaped herb. But I hear your argument.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Stronger than an Ultimate Nullifier? Firelord? Juggernaut? Colossus with Cytorrak amp and P5 amp?

Because none of them actually really put him down.

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