ROTS Obi Wan vs ROTJ Luke

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xPRIMEx Senior Member

ROTS Obi Wan vs ROTJ Luke

Who would win? Both are fighting to kill.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

The only way Luke doesn't win is if you think Vader was massively nerfed in RotJ, imo.

Eli Vanto Tactical Prodigy

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My opinion-
ROTJ Luke = ROTJ Vader >> Mustafar Anakin ~ ROTS Kenobi.

relentless1 Dark Overlord of KMC

Vader was holding back in ROTJ, his performance can't be used as a measure of Lukes abilities. Having said that, after Mando finale I think Luke takes this after a decent fight

Darth Thor Senior Member
Originally posted by relentless1
Vader was holding back in ROTJ, his performance can't be used as a measure of Lukes abilities. Having said that, after Mando finale I think Luke takes this after a decent fight

But the Luke we saw in Mando was 5 years post ROTJ.

xPRIMEx Senior Member

Originally posted by Galan007
The only way Luke doesn't win is if you think Vader was massively nerfed in RotJ, imo.

Yeah, I’m still undecided on whether or not Luke is = ROTJ Vader. I know there’s that quote that says they are, but at the same time I know Vader was very conflicted during their fight.

StiltmanFTW CBvF

So was Luke.

qwertyuiop1998 The Vampire

Yeah, Luke didnt try to kill his father either

Darth Thor Senior Member
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Yeah, Luke didnt try to kill his father either

Thats not the same as being conflicted though.

qwertyuiop1998 The Vampire

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Thats not the same as being conflicted though.
But it certainly held back Luke. So I dont think Vader was conflicted during ROTJ is a good argument. Since both of them werent at their peaks/not going all out

xPRIMEx Senior Member

What..? Luke didn’t seem very conflicted or hindered when he beat Vader, he was going all out rage mode on him.

qwertyuiop1998 The Vampire

I mean Luke literally said he wont fight vader and kept being defensive. And when he was going all out/using his rage him stomping vader easily. I dont think that is a good argument for vader being massively above Luke 😕

xPRIMEx Senior Member

Yeah, but Luke went rage mode. He had to use his anger to defeat a conflicted Vader.

xPRIMEx Senior Member

I never said Vader was *massively* above Luke.

qwertyuiop1998 The Vampire

I know. I just want to say that Vader was conflicted during ROTJ doesnt necessarily mean Luke's powers werent equal to Vader's.
I still tend to take the value of the quote saying Vader and Luke are equal in the force and skills

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by xPRIMEx
Yeah, but Luke went rage mode. He had to use his anger to defeat a conflicted Vader.
In Beware the Power of the Dark Side it was stated that Vader was tapping into his dark sided emotions(ie. hate, rage, fear) when Luke went beast mode, but it was still not enough to defend against him.

xPRIMEx Senior Member

What’s the quote that says they were equal?

qwertyuiop1998 The Vampire
Originally posted by Galan007
https://i.imgur.com/t8Wy6e4.jpg
-Jedi vs. Sith (2016)
xPRIMEx Senior Member

I guess that settles that then. The quote is pretty self explanatory.

I just don’t like the fact that Luke is so strong after only a few years of training.

StiltmanFTW CBvF
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Thats not the same as being conflicted though.

Luke was conflicted with his own dark side, realizing it takes away his humanity.

Both father and son were conflicted in the throne room scene, in their own ways.