King Thanos vs King Thor

It's a probable future.

King Thanos saw him wiping out Old King Thor while they were old and separately.
But the Black Winter showed Thor dying at the hands at non-old Thanos with zombified characters behind him.
Then the events of King Thor showed him battling Gorr and ultimately sacrificing himself.
History of the Marvel Universe showed Franklin Richards being the restarter of the universe with Galactus.
And Immortal Hulk had TOBA merge with Hulk to become the Breaker of Worlds and restart the universe.
So nothing really set in stone. It's a plethora of possible futures.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
So you don't think it follows canon till X point in the timeline and then switches to 666? AoA was 616 up until Xavier got killed and then became 295.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
It's a probable future.

King Thanos saw him wiping out Old King Thor while they were old and separately.
But the Black Winter showed Thor dying at the hands at non-old Thanos with zombified characters behind him.
Then the events of King Thor showed him battling Gorr and ultimately sacrificing himself.
History of the Marvel Universe showed Franklin Richards being the restarter of the universe with Galactus.
And Immortal Hulk had TOBA merge with Hulk to become the Breaker of Worlds and restart the universe.
So nothing really set in stone. It's a plethora of possible futures.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
it starts in the 616 timeline as shown on panel and all the events to the future are still within that same universe.

The whole Galactus/Franklin thing only happens now because young Thanos goes back to his past in the 616 uni and erases it.

It’s funny how all of a sudden these characters because inherently weaker or the feats from the 616 “past” do count yet the one ones that appear further in the story are still the same characters.

That's true, and yet it still remains as a possible future due to the church of truth arriving from it and going back to it way after Thanos' 'death'
However this future manifested at one point so for King Thanos it counts.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
That's true, and yet it still remains as a possible future due to the church of truth arriving from it and going back to it way after Thanos' 'death'
However this future manifested at one point so for King Thanos it counts.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
I have no issue about it may or may not being a possible future. To act as if the characters lose all feats or credibility is laughable when it’s only the near future of the 616 universe

Oh yeah for King Thanos that counts. Its a timeline that actually existed as Thanos and Cosmic Ghost Rider lived it.
Cosmic GHost Rider alone is proof that it's the same universe.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
The difference the story starts in the 616 with Thanos wins as the events show. Marvel zombies starts on earth 2149.

Stop talking shite, you was acting the cry baby saying you’re done as if you’ve not done it which you just had. At least be honest about it instead of being a hypocrite about it.

Or is it that Earths can be roughly similar to a certain degree(some events still taking place and whatnot) and diverge in some turning point, but never stop being two separate earths?

I see it as an alternate future of 616 characters which means that we can't allude to the idea that they're any weaker than their 616 selves of the past, unless at some point along the way they got nerfed.

It's how the 'What Ifs...?' handled it and how Thor's Reigning story diverged into Earth 3515 and back again from his Earth 616 series.
However, the diverging point isn't as neat since he was pulled into the future by CGR.

Exactly

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Do you have proof this is how Earths are created in Marvel?

Or is it that Earths can be roughly similar to a certain degree(some events still taking place and whatnot) and diverge in some turning point, but never stop being two separate earths?

You show any proof from any other universe where all these happened just like the it did in the 616 universe then you will have a point.

Originally posted by Stoic
I see it as an alternate future of 616 characters which means that we can't allude to the idea that they're any weaker than their 616 selves of the past, unless at some point along the way they got nerfed.

It's not about making any characters look good or bad. It's about established Marvel cosmology, which dictates that alternate universes/timelines = alternate characters.

My only point being that KT's performance against, say, TNG666 Galactus is not necessarily indicative of how a fight between KT and 616 Galactus would play out, because the Galactuses(Galacti?) are still different versions...and not all versions are created equal.

Assuming alternate universe characters get all the feats of their mainstream counterparts, simply because the alt-u in question branches from 616 is a very slippery slope. DS already mentioned this, but the same logic would apply to What-Ifs(which also branch directly from 616 events)... but of course, we never assume What-If characters are all equal to their 616 versions for the cited reasons.

I know your opinion isn't going to change, IT. Just adding my 2 cents here. 👆