What do you think about abortion?

Originally posted by Stoic
It's not my body because I'm a man, but if asked to abort or allow the baby a chance to live, I'd choose the latter. Adoption does exist after all. However, if there was a way of knowing whether ot not the child would be born with major defects that would cost more than I could handle, the waters then become a bit murkier. To be honest, if my child was going to be born mentally handicapped and I knew this during the fetus stage, I'd want to abort.

The act of abortion is rarely as cut and dry as you'd first think, and in not being able to see every angle, judgements tend to arise. I mean what if a women is gang raped and finds out that she became pregnant? Is it still as cut and dry when, or if she decides to abort?

Pro Life? Pro Choice? The Blame Game? I was raised to believe that life is 99% attitude and 1% circumstance, but sometimes that 1% manifests itself in our lives and we are then forced to make choices based upon it.

A woman who chooses to get an abortion is not aborting her own body, it is someone else's body. She is making a conscious decision to have another human being (seperate heart, seperate body, seperate DNA, etc...) terminated. It is murder no matter how anyone here tries to spin it.

It should not be the woman's choice any more than it is yours unless her life was actually at risk in having the baby. Getting an abortion is usually more dangerous to the woman than having it is though.

One of the government's duties is to make sure our individual liberties/rights are upheld. No right is more fundamental than the inherent right to life all human beings have. Abortions should be completely banned. Period.

And to any idiot who comes along and says "Well, if abortions are banned then women will just do it to themselves in secret!"

Yeah..... and?????? If it is discovered that a woman got an illegal abortion then she should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for intentional homicide. And if she ended-up hurting herself really bad while using a coat hangar or whatever on herself to kill her defenseless, innocent baby I am actually supposed to feel bad for her? Lmao. Nope, I wouldn't.

People who think it's ok to take an innocent, defenseless life will get no sympathy from me if they hurt themselves while performing an abortion on themselves.

Here's an idea: if you aren't ready for a baby then don't get pregnant! If you can't refrain from sex for whatever reasons then make sure you take plenty of steps to drastically reduce your chances of it happening, but keep in mind there will always be a chance that whatever steps you take won't be enough (other than abstinence, of course).

Bottom line: if you do end-up still getting pregnant anyway the innocent child who did not ask to be conceived should not have to pay the penalty for your irresponsibility.

Originally posted by cdtm
Abortions started in 1973.

And stem cell discovery came in the 1980's.

I'd bet money abortions are essentially a vehicle to facilitate stem cell research for the pharmaceutical companies. I mean, laws or not, it wouldn't be hard to break them and sneak way more stem cells out the door as needed, against regulations.

There have been abortions as long as their have been pregnancies. The bible even describes how a man may perform one on an unfaithful wife. What on Earth are you talking about?

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
There have been abortions as long as their have been pregnancies. The bible even describes how a man may perform one on an unfaithful wife. What on Earth are you talking about?

In the US, I meant.

73 was the explosion era.

And in 81, they coincidentally found a use for "mice stem cells".

Dollars to donuts they were experimenting on human embryos long before it became "legal" to do so.

Originally posted by cdtm
In the US, I meant.

73 was the explosion era.

And in 81, they coincidentally found a use for "mice stem cells".

Dollars to donuts they were experimenting on human embryos long before it became "legal" to do so.

No, 1973 is the year abortion became federally decriminalized in the United States. There was not an explosion of abortions after that. We were just able to start collecting better data, because it was no longer illegal to do so. Scientists discovered stem cells in 1961. You have no idea what you are talking about.

A woman wants to get rid of something attached to her placenta. Fair enough. Ethneo likes to pretend it's a fully grown human. Well, it might be on the same level of intelligence as him.

Who are the three that voted Pro-life?

Ethneo, CDTM, and ?

Edit: Forgot about Nibedicus.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
As abortion is a medical procedure, it should not be illegal.

However, as with any medical procedure, there should be regulations and ethical considerations on the when/how/why it is performed.

And such considerations should be built on the current conversation w/c should be an honest one (so the dehumanization of the fetus needs to stop) as well as should keep pace with medical science (there should also be more funding for more safe and humane extraction of the unborn).

"the unborn"

Sounds like a comicbook villain

Originally posted by Smurph
"the unborn"

Sounds like a comicbook villain

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
whatever happened to this right-wing nut job?

Don't know what happened to Nib, maybe he was aborted?

he became an... unposter

https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/reidout-blog/abortion-death-penalty-south-carolina-rcna74957

That didn't take long.

Murderers deserve the chair.

Originally posted by truejedi
https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/reidout-blog/abortion-death-penalty-south-carolina-rcna74957

That didn't take long.

"South Carolina Republicans float the death penalty for abortion" -snip

No real surprise, Republicans are by and large deplorables.