You're also neglecting the impact of the two people. Rush Limbaugh was a national figure that used his platform to cause wide spread harm. The only reason you know anything about George Floyd was because he was murdered by police and people decided to dig up his background to use against him and those people talking about police brutality. Which has become a standard tactic.
Context matters. The reason you brought up Floyd's past was to try and distract away that he was murdered by police. As is common practice when a Black man is murdered by police, the nigh instant "but he was no angel!" deflection. Floyd was no angel, correct, doesn't mean the cops had a right to treat him like they did.
Also one was a petty thug, the other actively used their platform to spread their hate mongering and actively strove to make the world a worse place.
A quick read of his wikipedia tells me that Floyd hadn't had any serious legal troubles since 2007 and that he had served time in prison, took part in religious activity after he served, and successfully took part in a ninety day rehabilitation program. Other than a minor incident where no charges were filed he largely appears to have focused on either mentoring kids in his community, trying to improve his own financial situation, and struggled with his own drug addiction before he died. I don't have a computer atm and am posting on my phone, but does anyone have evidence this narrative isn't accurate?
Originally posted by Klaw
Bringing up Floyds' past is not okay, but bringing up Limbaughs' past is okay.No double standards here.
Limbaughs Past? No ones discussing Limbaughs past. More like his life, his character and his abhorrent views in general.
You cant just equate that to anyone who ever committed a crime.
Limbaugh also wasnt brutally murdered.
So you are not comparing like for like here at all.
Originally posted by Klaw
Bringing up Floyds' past is not okay, but bringing up Limbaughs' past is okay.No double standards here.
I would agree with Darth Thor that these are two different things. George Floyd was killed by police officers, that much is not in debate, his past has only minor if any bearing on that. The reason why Floyd is discussed at all is because of one incident in his life, namely his death, which was caught on camera. Now Limbaugh on the other hand has been a public and political figure for decades, he has worked to shape the trajectory of the country and has been deeply successful at it, on the other hand his death has not been anything special, he died like many do, of a disease in old age, his death is only the catalyst to talk about his work. So I see two very fundamental different situations here.
That is not to say that people can't also talk about George Floyd's past, and then others can accuse them of being inappropriate, etc. I don't think that bringing up people's opposition to talking about George Floyd's past has any bearing on whether Limbaugh's life (or his "past"😉 should be discussed.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Also one was a petty thug, the other actively used their platform to spread their hate mongering and actively strove to make the world a worse place.A quick read of his wikipedia tells me that Floyd hadn't had any serious legal troubles since 2007 and that he had served time in prison, took part in religious activity after he served, and successfully took part in a ninety day rehabilitation program. Other than a minor incident where no charges were filed he largely appears to have focused on either mentoring kids in his community, trying to improve his own financial situation, and struggled with his own drug addiction before he died. I don't have a computer atm and am posting on my phone, but does anyone have evidence this narrative isn't accurate?
I mean it's Wikipedia... so, you know, meh. But I take your point, if any part of that is true about George Floyd it should really be brought up a lot more, at least in conversations that involve him and not just when someone is presenting a false equivalency.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Also one was a petty thug, the other actively used their platform to spread their hate mongering and actively strove to make the world a worse place.A quick read of his wikipedia tells me that Floyd hadn't had any serious legal troubles since 2007 and that he had served time in prison, took part in religious activity after he served, and successfully took part in a ninety day rehabilitation program. Other than a minor incident where no charges were filed he largely appears to have focused on either mentoring kids in his community, trying to improve his own financial situation, and struggled with his own drug addiction before he died. I don't have a computer atm and am posting on my phone, but does anyone have evidence this narrative isn't accurate?
Dunno.
But I thought it was established it wasn't the police who killed him, but a drug overdose? E.g. if the knee never happened, or the police never took him in, the same outcome would happen.
Originally posted by cdtm
Dunno.But I thought it was established it wasn't the police who killed him, but a drug overdose? E.g. if the knee never happened, or the police never took him in, the same outcome would happen.
No, there have been two autopsies and both have found the death to have been a homicide caused by the police's excessive restraining of him.
Originally posted by cdtmWelcome to the world of conservative misinformation.
Dunno.But I thought it was established it wasn't the police who killed him, but a drug overdose? E.g. if the knee never happened, or the police never took him in, the same outcome would happen.
Just like the windmills are what caused the Texas power outage.