Bet Ray Bill vs Orion.

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Originally posted by abhilegend
What, he has like ten appearances in New 52/Rebirth era and he is uber in all of that.
What has he done in those ten appearances?!

All outliers. I need 11 showings.

😂

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
All outliers. I need 11 showings.

I personally need 12, just to feel what it's like

lol like seagulls when someone scatters popcorn... so i wonder how that UTTERLY off panel star system feat would have been viewed by you lot if carver or alberto would have tried to claim that "feat" for a marvel character...? i mean ffs. 😂

know who else treated hal like a complete chump? zod. until the rematch. a hero getting treated like a chump for effect is....comics 101. why do i need to explain this...? "confused:

given his ltd showings, how you jump to the conclusion that orion is now super uberz beyond what he was!!1! is frankly, hilarious. and i LOVE orion (though his recent dialogue sucks imo). prior to these appearances, orion has DOZENS of crazy feats. i mean mogo barely did anything to orion. one random blast? i know the burden of proof regarding dc characters is well below any proof needed for marvel guys around here, but c'mon....

so, since he didn't receive any actual power up, i'll need more than those 2 "feats" and the one totally non-feat to say he's more powerful than his classic self. oh wait,--he has like 11 recent appearances. that must mean he has at least 11 awesome feats, right? that's what y'all are implying? damn, i can't wait to see those. 👆

This is the new kmc old man.

Kidding aside i take Orion in a close fight. Stormbreaker's energy absorbing could be an issue, but Orion has enuff in his arsenal to take it me thinks.

Originally posted by leonidas
lol like seagulls when someone scatters popcorn... so i wonder how that UTTERLY off panel star system feat would have been viewed by you lot if carver or alberto would have tried to claim that "feat" for a marvel character...? i mean ffs. 😂

know who else treated hal like a complete chump? zod. until the rematch. a hero getting treated like a chump for effect is....comics 101. why do i need to explain this...? "confused:

given his ltd showings, how you jump to the conclusion that orion is now super uberz beyond what he was!!1! is frankly, hilarious. and i LOVE orion (though his recent dialogue sucks imo). prior to these appearances, orion has DOZENS of crazy feats. i mean mogo barely did anything to orion. one random blast? i know the burden of proof regarding dc characters is well below any proof needed for marvel guys around here, but c'mon....

so, since he didn't receive any actual power up, i'll need more than those 2 "feats" and the one totally non-feat to say he's more powerful than his classic self. oh wait,--he has like 11 recent appearances. that must mean he has at least 11 awesome feats, right? that's what y'all are implying? damn, i can't wait to see those. 👆

Calm down, dear 😂

I thought that was very calm. 😂

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Calm down, dear 😂
There's nothing that gets leo angrier than DC characters being much more powerful than they were 15 years ago.

It's like hitting Betty in front of Banner.

Originally posted by leonidas
but no "official" power up? just a couple high showings?

Orion has always been super uber. Like Lobo.

Remember when he KO'd Superman?

And has very consistently matched, or even had an advantage over, since the Post Crisis era. Like when Darkseid brainwashed him into thinking he was his son. Or when he was the only one in the JLA who could evenly fight him in Superman: King of the World. Or Death of the New Gods, or the New52 fight where Supermans best only amused him.

Oh oh.

Originally posted by cdtm
Orion has always been super uber. Like Lobo.

Remember when he KO'd Superman?

And has very consistently matched, or even had an advantage over, since the Post Crisis era. Like when Darkseid brainwashed him into thinking he was his son. Or when he was the only one in the JLA who could evenly fight him in Superman: King of the World. Or Death of the New Gods, or the New52 fight where Supermans best only amused him.

Yes. Agreed. He’s always been Uber so looking at a couple random and not terribly impressive feats—and non feats—doesn’t suddenly mean he’s more powerful than he was. 😂

But by all means I am immediately prepared to bz the Orion from the last dozen appearances against the Orion from all his prior appearances.

And I know Phil’s trolling me and maybe not entirely undeservedly but this happens all the time. Which would be fine if people didn’t simply assume it’s right. New doesn’t mean better or more powerful. Seems like the entire forum has turned into senor prep....

The writer was essentially trying to push New Gods to the moon as threats, in a general sense. If anything, you can argue lanterns were nerfed, and not any sort of buffing of NG characters.

Highfather was also painted as the "villian", so they weren't even in character.

Yeah the characterization wasn’t great. Like I said something about Orion’s dialogue really turned me off. Open simonsons series to see how Orion should be depicted. Also some of his feats in that series were awesome. Loved that series....

Originally posted by leonidas
Yeah the characterization wasn’t great. Like I said something about Orion’s dialogue really turned me off. Open simonsons series to see how Orion should be depicted. Also some of his feats in that series were awesome. Loved that series....

👆

Time to re-read that.

In my Op I intended for this to include both pre 52 and 52 versions of Orion.

Originally posted by leonidas
lol like seagulls when someone scatters popcorn... so i wonder how that UTTERLY off panel star system feat would have been viewed by you lot if carver or alberto would have tried to claim that "feat" for a marvel character...? i mean ffs. 😂

Off panel? Are you high? We actually see them fighting with Shockwaves travelling across which destroyed the solar system. And then Kyle confirmed it in the next issue.

How the **** is that off panel?

know who else treated hal like a complete chump? zod. until the rematch. a hero getting treated like a chump for effect is....comics 101. why do i need to explain this...? "confused:

Zod was amped on two suns and treated an amped Kyle like nothing (who could destroy Mogo accidentally) before Hal beat the crap out of him.

given his ltd showings, how you jump to the conclusion that orion is now super uberz beyond what he was!!1! is frankly, hilarious. and i LOVE orion (though his recent dialogue sucks imo). prior to these appearances, orion has DOZENS of crazy feats. i mean mogo barely did anything to orion. one random blast? i know the burden of proof regarding dc characters is well below any proof needed for marvel guys around here, but c'mon....

Seriously? One blast? I mean c'mon, have you given this account to Alberto?

Here's the entire scene:

http://i.imgur.com/XeJ3xVB.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/8aG45FL.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/T1lb4Hc.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/cNIY6le.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/nRnEaO4.jpg

Mogo tries to alter gravity which has owned hundreds of black Lanterns and suspended multiple green Lanterns casually, he then blasts Orion and continues blasting but Orion pretty much ignored it and took the GL ring.

so, since he didn't receive any actual power up, i'll need more than those 2 "feats" and the one totally non-feat to say he's more powerful than his classic self. oh wait,--he has like 11 recent appearances. that must mean he has at least 11 awesome feats, right? that's what y'all are implying? damn, i can't wait to see those. 👆

Why would he need a powerup when he was rebooted?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
This is the new kmc old man.

Kidding aside i take Orion in a close fight. Stormbreaker's energy absorbing could be an issue, but Orion has enuff in his arsenal to take it me thinks.


Its not close, at all. Hal alone would destroy Bill, forget Orion.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Off panel? Are you high? We actually see them fighting with Shockwaves travelling across which destroyed the solar system. And then Kyle confirmed it in the next issue.

How the **** is that off panel?

Zod was amped on two suns and treated an amped Kyle like nothing (who could destroy Mogo accidentally) before Hal beat the crap out of him.

Seriously? One blast? I mean c'mon, have you given this account to Alberto?

Why would he need a powerup when he was rebooted?

Kyle asks whether it was Orion himself who destroyed the system via their shockwaves. That's not confirmation 🥴

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Kyle asks whether it was Orion himself who destroyed the system via their shockwaves. That's not confirmation 🥴

Shut up idiot.