Team Vs Venom

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Originally posted by KingD19
Not only can Venom move faster, but is extremely agile for his size and can cover far more distance in a shorter time than Blade.

Blade hasn't shown the strength to cut through Venom. He couldn't even cut through Nomak's bone plate, or through that thin metal pillar when he was fighting Drake. And all his feats are cutting through vampires who if you watched the movies, you'd know isn't hard because he has a silver sword with an acid etched edge, meaning he can kill vampires just by slightly cutting them.

And I already pointed out Blade can't do enough damage to cut off limbs, but even Riot who impaled Venom clean through multiple spikes longer than his body only put him down for a few seconds.

Strength
https://gfycat.com/yearlyantiqueibisbill - Venom bites a guys head off, then destroys multiple cars and chunks of concrete by simply running. He also headbutts himself through a stone fence like it's not even there. No one in this group is safe from a head chomp, as bladed weapons all work incredibly well on them.
https://gfycat.com/quickearlycricket - Throws people around like ragdolls and can hop around like a symbiotic bunny.
https://gfycat.com/terribletornkookaburra - Forces a human body through a reinforced concrete pillar. Nomak who is stronger than Blade couldn't even fully shatter a pillar with Blade's face.
https://gfycat.com/detailedcompletebadger - Rips metal rafters from their mooring and throws them.
https://gfycat.com/unnaturalflashybat - Uses a grown man as a flail.
https://gfycat.com/uniformblondamericancurl - Forces his way through a catwalk.
https://gfycat.com/responsibleacrobaticcod - Crumples a catwalk with Riot's face, then kicks him backward.

Durability
https://gfycat.com/adolescentweepyisopod - Ignores a shotgun blast. Also casually tosses a guy through the air one handed.
https://gfycat.com/bestvibrantgermanshorthairedpointer - Ignores assault rifle bullets.
https://gfycat.com/valuablenervousamurstarfish - Bullets do absolutely nothing to him.
https://gfycat.com/preciousappropriatefossa - Flash grenades are barely effective even at point blank range and they only disrupt him for a second. He also shows how easy it is to jump a story or two.
https://gfycat.com/grandobedientauk - Riot impales him with blades long enough to erupt from Venom's back, meaning they went through Eddie as well and he was just fine.
https://gfycat.com/plushgoldenchital - Riot beats him down and sends him flying hundreds of feet twice and Venom is okay. No one on the team can do anything even close to this, and if you say they can, show me some proof.
https://gfycat.com/webbedwearydobermanpinscher - Riot with his super huge sword and strength couldn't cut through Venom's tendril shield, so Blade can't.
https://www.gifdeliverynetwork.com/gregariousglumcougar - It took being caught in a spaceship exploding in his face to burn him, and even that didn't actually kill him. Bucky has nothing of that magnitude in his gear.

Agility
https://gfycat.com/amazingbeneficialarmadillo - Takes him a few seconds to scale a skyscraper.
https://gfycat.com/bestvibrantgermanshorthairedpointer - Catches grenades fired from a 40mm grenade launcher in his hand and another in his mouth. 40mm grenades are usually shot at a speed of roughly 500mph.
https://gfycat.com/composedverifiableallensbigearedbat - Covers an insane distance while twirling and flipping and dodging Riot's blade eruption.
https://gfycat.com/forcefuldistantamericanavocet - Scaled the launch tower faster than the rocket could take off.

Tendrils
https://gfycat.com/weepylinedelver - He can use multiple tendrils at once to disarm people.
https://gfycat.com/poshveneratedgnatcatcher - Strong enough to stop SUV's going full speed from crashing into Eddie.
https://gfycat.com/valuableadorableamericancrocodile - Individual tendrils are strong enough to forcefully move cars.
https://gfycat.com/agonizingtestykingfisher - Rips a car door clean off.
https://gfycat.com/regulardampelephant - In human form Eddie can whip guys around like dolls.

Healing
https://gfycat.com/informalgivingblacknorwegianelkhound - Venom instantly heals multiple broken bones and skin lacerations.
https://gfycat.com/thirdkaleidoscopichornbill - Eddie gets skewered by a blade bigger than him.
https://gfycat.com/parallelshabbygilamonster - Venom simply touches him and heals him immediately, even pulling the blade out of their chest.
https://gfycat.com/yearlyreflectingaustrianpinscher - Riot also heals a badly broken leg in seconds, showing that all symbiotes can easily and rapidly heal their hosts from injuries.

Eddie(Even in human form he has high degrees of strength and durability)
https://gfycat.com/specificqueasycub - Jumps to the top of a tree so fast people who were only feet away don't know where he went.
https://gfycat.com/bewitchedindolentbrant - Cracks a stone wall by pushing off it and one-shot's two guards.
https://gfycat.com/wearycleverbedlingtonterrier - Accidentally rams through a metal fence while trying to climb it.
https://gfycat.com/smoothcoarsealbino - Accidentally runs through a fallen tree easier than Cap split a log.

So as I said, this is Venom's fight to lose. Bone Claw Wolverine is the weakest link as that's his weakest form with the fewest and least impressive feats. Nothing is stopping Venom from biting his head off or tearing him apart, and his claws will do meager damage at best as I doubt they're even long enough to reach Eddie through Venom.

As soon as Cap throws his shield, he's not getting it back, if Venom doesn't just snatch it from him. Blade's sword is also a liability and will more than likely get taken or just ignored. If Riot's blades didn't do it, Blade's sword won't. And Bucky's standard gear will be annoying, but nothing Venom can't handle. He's bulletproof and the few explosives Bucky did have(not even sure if they're standard gear as I only remember him using one or two as Winter Soldier not Bucky) won't do much more than piss Venom off.

He's physically stronger than all of them, tougher, insanely agile and fast especially for his size, etc, etc, etc...

This is a very uphill fight for the team and more often than not, it's Venom's fight to lose.

I'd appreciate it if you actually put some effort into this with your response, maybe post some feats instead of just using your fake math and supposed knowledge of everything to come up with some nonsense.


Well, I still don’t think Wolverine is made of Kleenex, I’m thinking Venom might take this match in a forum fight.
Thanks for all the above!

Originally posted by riv6672
Well, I still don’t think Wolverine is made of Kleenex, I’m thinking Venom might take this match in a forum fight.
Thanks for all the above!

Riv, buddy. No one is saying Wolverine is made of Kleenex. But what he's not made of is Adamantium. Bone Claw Logan has barely any feats between Origins and DoFP, the only movies he has his bone claws. And even if we use Origins which is no longer canon, his physical toughness is only against blunt force trauma.

https://www.gifdeliverynetwork.com/bronzejubilantcub - As tough as he is from this scene, it won't stop Venom from biting through him, as we see even with Adamantium it doesn't stop his skin from getting pierced by blades and bullets. And he has no defense against getting tossed around as we see happens to him often against stronger opponents like Blob, Silver Samurai, Juggernaut, Beast, etc...

Originally posted by KingD19
Riv, buddy. No one is saying Wolverine is made of Kleenex. But what he's not made of is Adamantium. Bone Claw Logan has barely any feats between Origins and DoFP, the only movies he has his bone claws. And even if we use Origins which is no longer canon, his physical toughness is only against blunt force trauma.

https://www.gifdeliverynetwork.com/bronzejubilantcub - As tough as he is from this scene, it won't stop Venom from biting through him, as we see even with Adamantium it doesn't stop his skin from getting pierced by blades and bullets. And he has no defense against getting tossed around as we see happens to him often against stronger opponents like Blob, Silver Samurai, Juggernaut, Beast, etc...


You got me to choose Venom.

I’m not flipping on Wolverine, gringo.

Originally posted by riv6672
You got me to choose Venom.

I’m not flipping on Wolverine, gringo.

Hahah fair enough.

He was getting Impaled by Riots tendrils and blasted through tons of concrete and rebar. Piercing and blunt force from street levelers aren’t going to do anything to him

He uses Logan as a bludgeon and kills them all

Venom wins and I honestly can't put together a single scenario where the teams does. As King pointed out the deck is far too stacked against them.

Heck even Adamantium Wolverine has been KOd by a bullet. Can call that PIS, but then his young clone in Logan (forgot the code name), was KOd for a good amount of time by a shot gun. In fact didnt he need help recovering faster ?

Yeah, X-24 was severely injured and needed an injection or something to jumpstart his healing factor after that shotgun blew most of his face off.

Originally posted by KingD19
Not only can Venom move faster, but is extremely agile for his size and can cover far more distance in a shorter time than Blade.

Blade hasn't shown the strength to cut through Venom. He couldn't even cut through Nomak's bone plate, or through that thin metal pillar when he was fighting Drake. And all his feats are cutting through vampires who if you watched the movies, you'd know isn't hard because he has a silver sword with an acid etched edge, meaning he can kill vampires just by slightly cutting them.

And I already pointed out Blade can't do enough damage to cut off limbs, but even Riot who impaled Venom clean through multiple spikes longer than his body only put him down for a few seconds.

Strength
https://gfycat.com/yearlyantiqueibisbill - Venom bites a guys head off, then destroys multiple cars and chunks of concrete by simply running. He also headbutts himself through a stone fence like it's not even there. No one in this group is safe from a head chomp, as bladed weapons all work incredibly well on them.
https://gfycat.com/quickearlycricket - Throws people around like ragdolls and can hop around like a symbiotic bunny.
https://gfycat.com/terribletornkookaburra - Forces a human body through a reinforced concrete pillar. Nomak who is stronger than Blade couldn't even fully shatter a pillar with Blade's face.
https://gfycat.com/detailedcompletebadger - Rips metal rafters from their mooring and throws them.
https://gfycat.com/unnaturalflashybat - Uses a grown man as a flail.
https://gfycat.com/uniformblondamericancurl - Forces his way through a catwalk.
https://gfycat.com/responsibleacrobaticcod - Crumples a catwalk with Riot's face, then kicks him backward.

Durability
https://gfycat.com/adolescentweepyisopod - Ignores a shotgun blast. Also casually tosses a guy through the air one handed.
https://gfycat.com/bestvibrantgermanshorthairedpointer - Ignores assault rifle bullets.
https://gfycat.com/valuablenervousamurstarfish - Bullets do absolutely nothing to him.
https://gfycat.com/preciousappropriatefossa - Flash grenades are barely effective even at point blank range and they only disrupt him for a second. He also shows how easy it is to jump a story or two.
https://gfycat.com/grandobedientauk - Riot impales him with blades long enough to erupt from Venom's back, meaning they went through Eddie as well and he was just fine.
https://gfycat.com/plushgoldenchital - Riot beats him down and sends him flying hundreds of feet twice and Venom is okay. No one on the team can do anything even close to this, and if you say they can, show me some proof.
https://gfycat.com/webbedwearydobermanpinscher - Riot with his super huge sword and strength couldn't cut through Venom's tendril shield, so Blade can't.
https://www.gifdeliverynetwork.com/gregariousglumcougar - It took being caught in a spaceship exploding in his face to burn him, and even that didn't actually kill him. Bucky has nothing of that magnitude in his gear.

Agility
https://gfycat.com/amazingbeneficialarmadillo - Takes him a few seconds to scale a skyscraper.
https://gfycat.com/bestvibrantgermanshorthairedpointer - Catches grenades fired from a 40mm grenade launcher in his hand and another in his mouth. 40mm grenades are usually shot at a speed of roughly 500mph.
https://gfycat.com/composedverifiableallensbigearedbat - Covers an insane distance while twirling and flipping and dodging Riot's blade eruption.
https://gfycat.com/forcefuldistantamericanavocet - Scaled the launch tower faster than the rocket could take off.

Tendrils
https://gfycat.com/weepylinedelver - He can use multiple tendrils at once to disarm people.
https://gfycat.com/poshveneratedgnatcatcher - Strong enough to stop SUV's going full speed from crashing into Eddie.
https://gfycat.com/valuableadorableamericancrocodile - Individual tendrils are strong enough to forcefully move cars.
https://gfycat.com/agonizingtestykingfisher - Rips a car door clean off.
https://gfycat.com/regulardampelephant - In human form Eddie can whip guys around like dolls.

Healing
https://gfycat.com/informalgivingblacknorwegianelkhound - Venom instantly heals multiple broken bones and skin lacerations.
https://gfycat.com/thirdkaleidoscopichornbill - Eddie gets skewered by a blade bigger than him.
https://gfycat.com/parallelshabbygilamonster - Venom simply touches him and heals him immediately, even pulling the blade out of their chest.
https://gfycat.com/yearlyreflectingaustrianpinscher - Riot also heals a badly broken leg in seconds, showing that all symbiotes can easily and rapidly heal their hosts from injuries.

Eddie(Even in human form he has high degrees of strength and durability)
https://gfycat.com/specificqueasycub - Jumps to the top of a tree so fast people who were only feet away don't know where he went.
https://gfycat.com/bewitchedindolentbrant - Cracks a stone wall by pushing off it and one-shot's two guards.
https://gfycat.com/wearycleverbedlingtonterrier - Accidentally rams through a metal fence while trying to climb it.
https://gfycat.com/smoothcoarsealbino - Accidentally runs through a fallen tree easier than Cap split a log.

So as I said, this is Venom's fight to lose. Bone Claw Wolverine is the weakest link as that's his weakest form with the fewest and least impressive feats. Nothing is stopping Venom from biting his head off or tearing him apart, and his claws will do meager damage at best as I doubt they're even long enough to reach Eddie through Venom.

As soon as Cap throws his shield, he's not getting it back, if Venom doesn't just snatch it from him. Blade's sword is also a liability and will more than likely get taken or just ignored. If Riot's blades didn't do it, Blade's sword won't. And Bucky's standard gear will be annoying, but nothing Venom can't handle. He's bulletproof and the few explosives Bucky did have(not even sure if they're standard gear as I only remember him using one or two as Winter Soldier not Bucky) won't do much more than piss Venom off.

He's physically stronger than all of them, tougher, insanely agile and fast especially for his size, etc, etc, etc...

This is a very uphill fight for the team and more often than not, it's Venom's fight to lose.

I'd appreciate it if you actually put some effort into this with your response, maybe post some feats instead of just using your fake math and supposed knowledge of everything to come up with some nonsense.

You wasted a lot of time and energy on things that do not rebut my argument.

You claimed that Blade can't cut through Venom because he isn't strong enough. Blade can at least exert a few tons of force.

Did you know that a hypothermic needle can exert over 100,000 lbs per square inch of pressure from its weight only?
Blade should easily slice through Venom unless you think Venom is harder than the metal of blades sword?

Blade is faster than Venom. He's a bullet timer, Venom isn't. Who cares about running or traveling speed? Combat speed is more about perceptions, reflex, and limb speed.

I'm not saying blade can best Venom but with this team working together it will be a hard fight for him. Venom could possibly lose.

P.S. All them feats you posted are shitty. It seems that you are impressed by garbage ass shit. Venom was weak as shit in that movie, relative to his comic counterpart. I wasn't impressed by anything he did.

Originally posted by h1a8
You wasted a lot of time and energy on things that do not rebut my argument.

You claimed that Blade can't cut through Venom because he isn't strong enough. Blade can at least exert a few tons of force.

Did you know that a hypothermic needle can exert over 100,000 lbs per square inch of pressure from its weight only?
Blade should easily slice through Venom unless you think Venom is harder than the metal of blades sword?

Blade is faster than Venom. He's a bullet timer, Venom isn't. Who cares about running or traveling speed? Combat speed is more about perceptions, reflex, and limb speed.

I'm not saying blade can best Venom but with this team working together it will be a hard fight for him. Venom could possibly lose.

And you wasted no time pulling more BS out of your ass. No feats, no actual scenarios, no actual numbers. Nothing but "did you know this and this that I said is the absolute truth"?

Riot who is massively stronger than Blade not only pierced clean through Venom with dozens of blades(which didn't put him down for more than a few seconds) but he used a giant sword and tried to chop him down, and Venom blocked it. Even Eddie in human form was essentially brought back to life with a sword wider than he was stuck through his back and out his chest.

Oh, and despite you claiming Blade is a bullet timer(I assume because he fought Frost)
https://i.imgur.com/ycGo263.gifv - He gets shot here. Didn't even attempt to dodge.

We've never seen Blade block or avoid bullets so that's something you made up. And aren't you the one who said that guys like Winter Soldier are aim dodging when he has multiple feats of dodging or blocking automatic gunfire(after the shots are fired). But also that Ozymandias is a bullet timer despite him obviously aim dodging. Your goal posts move to serve your purposes and nothing else.

The force Blade can exert is nowhere near as much as Riot who as I already pointed out was incapable of cutting Venom with a sword. Venom also has his tendrils and can manipulate his biomass to simply catch the blade or take it.

And while Blade has never reacted to bullets, we know Venom can react to small objects traveling at least 500mph while distracted by multiple people shooting at him.

Oh and I showed just how agile Venom is and not only is his movement speed incredibly fast, but he has insane combat awareness and reflexes. Tell me you think Blade could avoid Riot's blade storm while simultaneously crossing as much distance as Venom. Tell me more lies.

Originally posted by h1a8

P.S. All them feats you posted are shitty. It seems that you are impressed by garbage ass shit. Venom was weak as shit in that movie, relative to his comic counterpart. I wasn't impressed by anything he did.

There it is!!!

H1 showing his bias once again.

I didn't like the feats. They're shitty and Venom was weak compared to comics so they don't count. Hur hur hur I'm the best. You haven't even posted a single feat yet you want people to believe your lies as the gospel. It's pathetic, man.

🙄

Originally posted by KingD19
Hahah fair enough.

Good deal.

I can see you’re keeping busy though. Ive enjoyed your subsequent posts in this thread! 😛

So yeah Venom wins.

I agree with you King

Originally posted by KingD19
So yeah Venom wins.

He actually stomps tbh.