Match Sundipped Superman feat

Started by AlbertoJohnAvil8 pages

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
@AlbertoJohnAvil
Ah, But if we using the actual physics Superman would have flown thousands of years to pass a galaxy but in the comic he actually just crossed it in moments. So light needs hours to catch him sounds more like flowery speech in this context, Dont you think? 😉
No, it doesn’t. All that means is the galaxies were small.
They wouldn’t need to be terribly large anyway, all Forger needed was a place to keep him without sunlight. We know it shows moments yet Lois is able to see Superman as he flies (and the justice League later). I can do this all day, everyday. I’m immune to Super wank

Lol, First it isnt pocket universe just galaxy, Then the pocket universe was in 6th dimension, Now you come to "small galaxies" fabrication
Again lets use your RL science, Lois wouldnt be able to see Superman because he was faster than light and we human beings cant recognize it.
How does it make sense to you Alberto?

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
But we see him fly thousands of light years IN MOMENTS. So you literally proved that light needs hours to catch him is a flowery speech 😄
Oh yeah? Where does it say he crossed a galaxy? Or he crossed light years? 😂 ALL it’s shows him going through six stars, hours ahead of time.

Just shows writers don't know every feat when they use blanket statements, nor do they even understand their own writing.

I like how the focus in this thread is on light when it says it would take sound months to catch up. Not only sound catching up in months but Anvil is too weak to notice that they clearly go up in scale the longer it takes for a more accurate measurement and he's letting people walk all over him with "hours could be all of them."

It's similar to the Flash thing. These writers simply don't understand the calculation or they're unaware of better feats. They don't debate this, they just write it.

And by writers I mean Scott Snyder sucks. If he were aware of faster speeds he would have adjusted since his version always needs to be the best.

That being said, the wording either matters or it doesn't depending if you care more about what he did than the description. Or maybe the description was accurate and it was still seen as ungodly speed. I don't get the need to have everything be the best travel feat ever personally when the big feat was the punch. It either goes from having the best side effects to his speed while he has technically faster or it's just his fastest ever while he's amped.

Comics.

@AlbertoJohnAvil
Lol, You said Superman is a galaxy away from WF's world

hyperbole on hyperbole. He was in the 6D to begin with. He’s in a galaxy away per WF.
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And we both see Superman immediately fly through the pocket universe or galaxy per your own words and punch WF

Being felt in every dimension is crazy power, but being faster than imagination sounds dumb as hell.

As fast as supes was going, wf still saw him coming towards him while being distracted with his anvill. Which means wf reaction rate is well beyond Supermans fans “beyond imagination” imagination.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Lol, First it isnt pocket universe just galaxy, Then the pocket universe was in 6th dimension, Now you come to "small galaxies" fabrication
Again lets use your RL science, Lois wouldnt be able to see Superman because he was faster than light and we human beings cant recognize it.
How does it make sense to you Alberto?
The writer of these pages was an idiot. Don’t blame me for the inconsistencies. I pointed them out more than once.

Snyder is an idiot I agree. I mean he literally wrote the 6th dimension is beyond imagination even though it clearly is an imagination
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Justice-League-2018/Issue-19?id=151014#14
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Justice-League-2018/Issue-25?id=156396#5
But that doesnt change you need to prove your characters to meet those 3 conditions since it was stated in comic although it doesnt make any sense
1 Go beyond imagination and physics
2 MFTL speed
3 Shake every dimension as a side-effect

Originally posted by Booya_69
Being felt in every dimension is crazy power, but being faster than imagination sounds dumb as hell.

As fast as supes was going, wf still saw him coming towards him while being distracted with his anvill. Which means wf reaction rate is well beyond Supermans fans “beyond imagination” imagination.


WF is a 6D being. Distance and speed mean very little to his preception.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Didnt the scan say Superman's speed is beyond physics and imagination(And considering Superman reaches the 6th dimension, A place that beyond imagination. I will take this statement literally).
So the character needs to be faster than imagination to even have a shot 😖hifty:
If it takes light hours to catch up with him, that's slow as hell compared to something like Gladiator covering 200 light-years in minutes. That feat of Superman is NOT impressive at all.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
@AlbertoJohnAvil
Lol, You said Superman is a galaxy away from WF's world
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And we both see Superman immediately fly through the pocket universe or galaxy per your own words and punch WF

he was in a galaxy by his and WF own words I showed you the scans 🤦🏽‍♂️.
He was adrift until Batman moves the sun so he could sundip, he goes through several suns before flying to the planet.

he said he’s locked away in a galaxy not a universe and it’s obvious they’re all in the 6D. If he was going so fast that light couldn’t catch him yet everyone on the planet saw him coming 🤦🏽‍♂️. He didn’t decelerate because he had to prevent WF’s hammer (already in motion) from hitting the anvil.

if he’s in another universe moving of stars wouldn’t have mattered. 🤦🏽‍♂️

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
How many hours in a year Alberto? Bear in mind that even milk way is 100,000 light years
And even we assuming Superman was following trail to 6th dimension. How does it negate Superman has transimdensional speed? He still needs to fly through dimensions by himself, no?

Where does he traverse dimensions? Are the stars somehow bridging dimensions? They're ALL in world forgers fake JL future dimension. At no point does it state he's changing dimensions unless I missed that part. Batman used the device world forger used to create the universe they are in, to alter that universe by stringing a line of stars from the trap WF build in that universe for superman, to where they would ultimately face WF. Superman escaped the planet because of the trail batman left and followed it to the fight. He flew at least hundreds of times faster than the speed of light (which is very much beyond physics) But I don't remember any part where he crossed dimensions.
Also speed of light is fast enough to be transdimensional in DC, as Speed of light is the minimum speed for entering the speed force

he was in a galaxy by his and WF own words I showed you the scans 🤦🏽‍♂️.
He was adrift until Batman moves the sun so he could sundip, he goes through several suns before flying to the planet.

he said he’s locked away in a galaxy not a universe and it’s obvious they’re all in the 6D. If he was going so fast that light couldn’t catch him yet everyone on the planet saw him coming 🤦🏽‍♂️. He didn’t decelerate because he had to prevent WF’s hammer (already in motion) from hitting the anvil.

if he’s in another universe moving of stars wouldn’t have mattered. 🤦🏽‍♂️


Again, You dodging my question 😆
Whether he was in a galaxy or pocket universe doesnt matter, Because if you trying to use "light needs hours to catch him" as a proof to the speed's maximum then Superman would have travel at least years to reach WF's world. But Superman actually only just took moments to travel this distance
Yourself said WFs hammer already in motion
We all know light needs hours to catch him is similar to the Flash thing. These writers simply don't do the calculation. They don't debate this, they just write it.
So essentially if you want to match the feat, You need to prove your characters meet the three condition because that is what the comic stated and the writer's intentions
1 Go faster than physics and imagination( At a speed beyond physics. Beyond imagination
2 MFTL speed( Light needs hours to catch him)
3 Shake every dimension while doing it (His approach can be felt across every dimension and WF actually feels the vibration of his approach)

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Where does he traverse dimensions? Are the stars somehow bridging dimensions? They're ALL in world forgers fake JL future dimension. At no point does it state he's changing dimensions unless I missed that part. Batman used the device world forger used to create the universe they are in, to alter that universe by stringing a line of stars from the trap WF build in that universe for superman, to where they would ultimately face WF. Superman escaped the planet because of the trail batman left and followed it to the fight. He flew at least hundreds of times faster than the speed of light (which is very much beyond physics) But I don't remember any part where he crossed dimensions.
Also speed of light is fast enough to be transdimensional in DC, as Speed of light is the minimum speed for entering the speed force

He was in a pocket universe and it didnt state he was in 6th dimension. But if you want to go by explicit statements then sure like I said before you need to prove your characters can meet the 3 conditions I mentioned because they are explicitly stated in comics
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998

1 Go faster than physics and imagination( At a speed beyond physics. Beyond imagination
2 MFTL speed( Light needs hours to catch him)
3 Shake every dimension while doing it (His approach can be felt across every dimension and WF actually feels the vibration of his approach)

And dont give me when some characters achieve 2 they will automatically achieve 1 and 3 shit
Because we actually see Superman has tons of examples where he travels galaxies( Much faster than "light needs hours to catch him"😉 but doesnt have the same effects as we see in this feat( shaking every dimension for instance)
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-d5e749f027fcc2e589a6848a37bcfd25

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Again, You dodging my question 😆
Whether he was in a galaxy or pocket universe doesnt matter, Because if you trying to use "light needs hours to catch him" as a proof to the speed's maximum then Superman would have travel at least years to reach WF's world. But Superman actually only just took moments to travel this distance
Yourself said WFs hammer already in motion
We all know light needs hours to catch him is similar to the Flash thing. These writers simply don't do the calculation. They don't debate this, they just write it.
So essentially if you want to match the feat, You need to prove your characters meet the three condition because that is what the comic stated and the writer's intentions
1 Go faster than physics and imagination( At a speed beyond physics. Beyond imagination
2 MFTL speed( Light needs hours to catch him)
3 Shake every dimension while doing it (His approach can be felt across every dimension and WF actually feels the vibration of his approach)
Actually, we go by what the writer states. So if flash evacuating that City and was stated to be moving just under the speed of light, then thats what happened. You can't add on to it. It was stated that it took light hours to catch up with him and that's it. that's the writers intent and we as readers cannot change it just because we don't like it. It does not matter what real life physics States, it's what he who wrote the book States.

Originally posted by JBL
Actually, we go by what the writer states. So if flash evacuating that City and was stated to be moving just under the speed of light, then thats what happened. You can't add on to it. It was stated that it took light hours to catch up with him and that's it. that's the writers intent and we as readers cannot change it just because we don't like it. It does not matter what real life physics States, it's what he who wrote the book States.

Ah, Then like I said before prove those 3 conditions, As they also were stated in the comic
1 Go faster than physics and imagination( At a speed beyond physics. Beyond imagination
2 MFTL speed( Light needs hours to catch him)
3 Shake every dimension while doing it (His approach can be felt across every dimension and WF actually feels the vibration of his approach)

You cant pick and choose

Originally posted by abhilegend
Why even bother at this?

Because every hero needs a villain

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Again, You dodging my question 😆
Whether he was in a galaxy or pocket universe doesnt matter, Because if you trying to use "light needs hours to catch him" as a proof to the speed's maximum then Superman would have travel at least years to reach WF's world. But Superman actually only just took moments to travel this distance
Yourself said WFs hammer already in motion
We all know light needs hours to catch him is similar to the Flash thing. These writers simply don't do the calculation. They don't debate this, they just write it.
So essentially if you want to match the feat, You need to prove your characters meet the three condition because that is what the comic stated and the writer's intentions
1 Go faster than physics and imagination( At a speed beyond physics. Beyond imagination
2 MFTL speed( Light needs hours to catch him)
3 Shake every dimension while doing it (His approach can be felt across every dimension and WF actually feels the vibration of his approach)

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
He was in a pocket universe and it didnt state he was in 6th dimension. But if you want to go by explicit statements then sure like I said before you need to prove your characters can meet the 3 conditions I mentioned because they are explicitly stated in comics

And dont give me when some characters achieve 2 they will automatically achieve 1 and 3 shit
Because we actually see Superman has tons of examples where he travels galaxies( Much faster than "light needs hours to catch him"😉 but doesnt have the same effects as we see in this feat( shaking every dimension for instance)
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-d5e749f027fcc2e589a6848a37bcfd25

What a dumbass 😂 Comic Books are virtual violators of science almost every panel.
A pocket universe is not a seperste universe. It's a localized area (theoretically) in said same universe.
The only solid core data we have is that Superman went fast enough that light was hours behind. That doesnt violate the first statement "where he moved beyond imagination and physics", since minute particles have barely broken the speed of light.

Try again. I am going to keep kicking your ass on this if it takes a year for you to concede, you're not running from this kid.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
He was in a pocket universe and it didnt state he was in 6th dimension. But if you want to go by explicit statements then sure like I said before you need to prove your characters can meet the 3 conditions I mentioned because they are explicitly stated in comics

And dont give me when some characters achieve 2 they will automatically achieve 1 and 3 shit
Because we actually see Superman has tons of examples where he travels galaxies( Much faster than "light needs hours to catch him"😉 but doesnt have the same effects as we see in this feat( shaking every dimension for instance)
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-d5e749f027fcc2e589a6848a37bcfd25

😂 how? By what calculations? Unquantifiable Hyperbole. He’s FTL but everyone fells his approach and sees him coming? The writer pulled it out of his ass and contradicts himself more than once.
Still slower than Surfer going from earth to the middle of the universe in minutes or gladiator crossing galaxies in the blink of Heimdall’s eye too.

Try again. You'll fail every single time.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Ah, Then like I said before prove those 3 conditions, As they also were stated in the comic

You cant pick and choose

All those conditions falls under taking hours for light to catch up with. No matter what was going on, the speed is clearly given. A fighter jet can fly over an aircraft carrier and cause a sonic boom that knocks the coffee out of the admiral's hand and shatter windows, but that does not change the speed the jet was moving.