Originally posted by Stoic
What issue are you referring to? I recall dialog that hinted at him being able to destroy Earth, but that he chose not to.
Don't know, read scans. But I remember him teleported from the Dark Dimension back to Earth and he didn't know he was back until someone told him. Didn't even level mountains while pounding on FFF, supporting that matter in the Dark Dimension is weak sauce. I mean if you want to go this route.
Originally posted by Delta1938Ok, let me ask you a question. When Gladiator destroyed that planet with his fists, and people start saying it was a planetoid with no proof whatsoever, where were you? you see Gladiator destroyed a planet that had an atmosphere and held an entire race and had several moons, and you Superman fans cry that it was small, but Superman destroys a planet the held few prisoners and you Superman fans want it to be ultra big because it was Superman doing it. Why? Answer that please.
So are you trolling or straw grasping? Any answer that isn't one of those two is a concessions to trolling.Also, I meant to call you chump, not chimp.
Originally posted by JBL
Ok, let me ask you a question. When Gladiator destroyed that planet with his fists, and people start saying it was a planetoid with no proof whatsoever, where were you? you see Gladiator destroyed a planet that had an atmosphere and held an entire race and had several moons, and you Superman fans cry that it was small, but Superman destroys a planet the held few prisoners and you Superman fans want it to be ultra big because it was Superman doing it. Why? Answer that please.
You wrote a decent amount to deflect. It would only be relevant if I were claiming it's a planetoid without proof. Concessions accepted.
Also it having multiple moons is not proof of anything given Pluto has more than one moon.
Carter, I know you laugh at things you don't understand, so your throat must hurt.
Originally posted by Delta1938Did pluto hold an entire race?
You wrote a decent amount to deflect. It would only be relevant if I were claiming it's a planetoid without proof. Concessions accepted.Also it having multiple moons is not proof of anything given Pluto has more than one moon.
Carter, I know you laugh at things you don't understand, so your throat must hurt.
Superman casually one shot ko’d barbatos.
Stopped a guy that was beating the crap out of BA. Manhattan knows he can’t beat Superman. Chains feat. Defeated an army of robots that had all of dc earth defeated. Destroyed a planet by just jumping off while almost totally out of power. The feat he performed with .01% power levels is greater than WBH & Beatty shares feat.
Carter doesn’t believe that Superman holds back especially against his friends. He also assesses the other fighter in his first confrontation. He didn’t want to knock out damage. That was lip service and was keeping him occupied for the 60 mins. Carter thinks that’s a low feat lol. Damage would have beaten the hulk because new character gets the treated differently. How many times did hulk lose to red hulk when red hulk came on the scene? What a dummy,, making up for albie I guess.
Originally posted by Morona planet is a planet. A planet in comics if they state it as a planet then it isn’t a planetoid or a dwarf planet, It’s a planet of earth size unless the size is specifically stated on panel.
Ok, let me ask you a question. When Gladiator destroyed that planet with his fists, and people start saying it was a planetoid with no proof whatsoever, where were you? you see Gladiator destroyed a planet that had an atmosphere and held an entire race and had several moons, and you Superman fans cry that it was small, but Superman destroys a planet the held few prisoners and you Superman fans want it to be ultra big because it was Superman doing it. Why? Answer that please.
Originally posted by Moron
Superman fans cry that it was small.
Like you’re crying that it was a prison planet? Show where Superman fans questioning the size of the planet that was destroyed by gladiator?
Originally posted by Delta1938
Don't know, read scans. But I remember him teleported from the Dark Dimension back to Earth and he didn't know he was back until someone told him. Didn't even level mountains while pounding on FFF, supporting that matter in the Dark Dimension is weak sauce. I mean if you want to go this route.
I still don't know what you're referring to. I do recall him returning to Earth and doing a great amount of damage before Doom perfomed brain surgery. Didn't he throw Fing Fang Foom into space at a far weaker level? Also not seeing how anyone would make pretend that his performance in the Dark Dimension was a poor showing, or weaksauce as you've stated? I am aware that many have tried to make it seem as his Dark Dimension showings weren't much, but those claims are baseless. Pak's rendition of those events didn't leave much room to interpret as it was all on panel.
That just proves that you can't always rely on collateral damage unless the writer is trying to give the reader an example of the power display. We can go through book after book with many different characters and see the exact same thing. There was a scene that references WW Hulk which stated that just because he didn't doesn't mean that he couldn't. This was right after he routed the Wendigo and Bi Beast who were stated to be 1000 times more powerful than their base forms.
Agreed. Unfortunately, collateral damage feats are what WBH has. Delta was pointing out how in the Dark Dimension, WBH and Betty together casually destroyed a world....but on Earth, even when amped (and still believing themselves to be in the DD, so no holding back) they didn't.
Which chimes with my post that that DD was made of more fragile matter than 616, as per comics.
Originally posted by Stoic
I still don't know what you're referring to. I do recall him returning to Earth and doing a great amount of damage before Doom perfomed brain surgery. Didn't he throw Fing Fang Foom into space at a far weaker level? Also not seeing how anyone would make pretend that his performance in the Dark Dimension was a poor showing, or weaksauce as you've stated? I am aware that many have tried to make it seem as his Dark Dimension showings weren't much, but those claims are baseless. Pak's rendition of those events didn't leave much room to interpret as it was all on panel.
You seem to have completely and utterly missed my point. Also, there has been an explicit scan posted before of it being stated about matter seems weaker in the DD, that's what I said was weak sauce(wouldn't be a shabby feat with weak matter given the amount, but not what's being argued) so it's false the claims are baseless.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85and if the mindless ones were melted in the dark dimension from an attack that did nothing on planet earth then those mindless ones weren’t that durable.
Agreed. Unfortunately, collateral damage feats are what WBH has. Delta was pointing out how in the Dark Dimension, WBH and Betty together casually destroyed a world....but on Earth, even when amped (and still believing themselves to be in the DD, so no holding back) they didn't.Which chimes with my post that that DD was made of more fragile matter than 616, as per comics.
Originally posted by Diesldude
and if the mindless ones were melted in the dark dimension from an attack that did nothing on planet earth then those mindless ones weren’t that durable.
IIRC, the same scene where it was said about matter being weaker had Mindless Ones getting pieces chipped off by not much BEYOND Street Level.
That or this was a different instance. If people really want to lowball then hey.
Originally posted by Delta1938
You seem to have completely and utterly missed my point. Also, there has been an explicit scan posted before of it being stated about matter seems weaker in the DD, that's what I said was weak sauce(wouldn't be a shabby feat with weak matter given the amount, but not what's being argued) so it's false the claims are baseless.
There was also a scan posted by Hulkster that stated that the Kingdoms that were governed by the denizens of the Dark Dimension added gravity to their kingdoms, so that they weren't the puffball matter that the areas outside of their kingdoms are. I didn't miss anything that you were aiming for. Amadeus Cho also emphasised that the Hulk pulls his punches. Or did you not notice that he turned Fin Fang Foom into dust before the scan that was posted here recently. Was he made squishier while being in the Dark Dimension as well? Do you think that Pak even took any of that into account, or is it just the Hulk detractors trying to spin things?