Because one has actually invented them. New Genesis tech isn't Batman's tech. Again, based on who's tech is by far superior should be more than enough proof to give Tony the win here. If Bruce could master Tony's level of tech, he'd have more sophisticated toys of his own. Bruce has the Batmobile, Tony has a Transformer.
Originally posted by Stoic
Because one has actually invented them. New Genesis tech isn't Batman's tech. Again, based on who's tech is by far superior should be more than enough proof to give Tony the win here. If Bruce could master Tony's level of tech, he'd have more sophisticated toys of his own. Bruce has the Batmobile, Tony has a Transformer.
Using that logic, Batman has far more experience taking in and understanding other people's technology than Tony, and thus, does better in this thread.
Like asking a world class basketball player, to suddenly switch to water polo. Or if you want to use a knowledge analogy, asking an English professor to suddenly read Chinese, vs a high school kid who can actually read both languages. Sure, the kid isn't on the level of the prof at English - but he does well enough to get by, and more importantly for this thread, he's able to actually do languages other than his own. But if you want to use inventions:
Bruce's inventions in the field of security are scarier than Apokoliptian and Thanagarian tech (plus Kryp and Martian tech), lol.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Using that logic, Batman has far more experience taking in and understanding other people's technology than Tony, and thus, does better in this thread.Like asking a world class basketball player, to suddenly switch to water polo. Or if you want to use a knowledge analogy, asking an English professor to suddenly read Chinese, vs a high school kid who can actually read both languages. Sure, the kid isn't on the level of the prof at English - but he does well enough to get by, and more importantly for this thread, he's able to actually do languages other than his own. But if you want to use inventions:
Bruce's [b]inventions
in the field of security are scarier than Apokoliptian and Thanagarian tech (plus Kryp and Martian tech), lol. [/B]
Batarangs versus Repulser technology.
Originally posted by Smurph
Not really a point in your favor. The thread is “who masters the other guy’s tech better?” ... I think Bruce could match Tony’s mastery of repulsors far faster than Tony would match Bruce’s mastery of batarangs.
Based on what exactly? When did Tony struggle with the use of tech?
Originally posted by Stoic
Batarangs versus Repulser technology.
You're saying Batman is unable to work out how to use an Iron Man suit (as an example) when quite a few stories involve his tech being stolen and used by others?
OTOH, I'd quite like to see how skilled Tony is with fighting with a Batarang, as Smurph points out.
There's a reason(amongst others obv) armies don't spend huge amounts of time and money training with martial art weapons.
Bruce is king at appropriating others' technology and mastering it. You know you haven't got an argument, lol - as you said to lawest in another thread, go sit in your corner.
Originally posted by StoicBased on Tony not being a ninja.
Based on what exactly? When did Tony struggle with the use of tech?
Bruce’s tech is made for a skill set that Tony doesn’t have. Tony can learn how it works, but mastering it is a whole other story.
It’s like arguing that Reed Richards could master Cap’s shield.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
You're saying Batman is unable to work out how to use an Iron Man suit (as an example) when quite a few stories involve his tech being stolen and used by others?OTOH, I'd quite like to see how skilled Tony is with fighting with a Batarang, as Smurph points out.
There's a reason(amongst others obv) armies don't spend huge amounts of time and money training with martial art weapons.
Bruce is king at appropriating others' technology and mastering it. You know you haven't got an argument, lol - as you said to lawest in another thread, go sit in your corner.
Stayne? It took him years to reverse engineer Tony's tech which resulted in the Armor Wars. How long do you think it'd take Obadiah to reverse engineer the vast majority of Bruce's tech?
Originally posted by Smurph
Based on Tony not being a ninja.Bruce’s tech is made for a skill set that Tony doesn’t have. Tony can learn how it works, but mastering it is a whole other story.
It’s like arguing that Reed Richards could master Cap’s shield.
Electric knucle dusters, gas pellets, smart cowl, freeze foam, plastique, kevlar, etc?
Originally posted by Stoic
Stayne? It took him years to reverse engineer Tony's tech which resulted in the Armor Wars. How long do you think it'd take Obadiah to reverse engineer the vast majority of Bruce's tech?
This A: isn't a thread on reverse engineering; just mastering the tech. Punisher, for example, used it just fine.
B: they each have blueprints, something that Stane didn't have.
C: Stane isn't Bruce
D: it would take him a longass time, as Bruce's tech, like it or not, is made up of every different villain and hero he encounters. He doesn't invent it, true, but he repurposes it as his tech.
E: not to mention, even simple 'tech' like a lowly Batarang (which you scoff at) needs a lot more time to master in throwing (let alone the weird ricochets he does) than it does to fire a repulsor beam.
Originally posted by StoicYou reduced it to batarangs and repulsors so we can just use those. You think Tony could master a batarang faster than Bruce could master using a repulsor?
Electric knucle dusters, gas pellets, smart cowl, freeze foam, plastique, kevlar, etc?
Low tech doesn’t mean low skill.