Asgard (Marvel) vs Imperiex Probes

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Asgard (Marvel) vs Imperiex Probes

Asgard (Marvel) vs all Imperiex Probes

how many probes? is this classic odin in asgard or king of thunder thor with the pc he absorbed from galactus? thor treated a hugely amped galactus like a red-headed step-child. that is damn impressive imo, so it would matter who is guarding asgard. do they know the attack is coming and can prepare, or are the probes just teleported there without warning? all these things would make a difference. how many probes are there?

I thought Thor had lost that PC amp...

And Thor beat Galactus like that only due to power draining.

I got told in another thread that Thor wouldn't be able to drain, say, Thanos with no one really disputing that claim. Not sure how that showing can translate here?

Originally posted by leonidas
how many probes?
all probes
Originally posted by leonidas
is this classic odin in asgard or king of thunder thor with the pc he absorbed from galactus?
current thor
Originally posted by leonidas
do they know the attack is coming and can prepare, or are the probes just teleported there without warning?
asgard has 1 day of preparation

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I thought Thor had lost that PC amp...

yeah maybe. he seems to have unleashed it in a blast that took out the winter, but the way thor has been depicted he still seems more powerful than the king thor of the past. i don't think his pc is what let him drain galactus for example. i wonder if he could simply drain the probes as easily?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I thought Thor had lost that PC amp...
yup and

Odin not the same. Smh

I'll let stilt answer this question for you, whatever he says goes

Originally posted by leonidas
yeah maybe. he seems to have unleashed it in a blast that took out the winter, but the way thor has been depicted he still seems more powerful than the king thor of the past. i don't think his pc is what let him drain galactus for example. i wonder if he could simply drain the probes as easily?
i think it was a combination of him being the all father and the Pc.

If the pc wasn’t involved then any run of the mill skyfather would be above galactus and Odin wouldn’t have tried to headbutt him while he was weakened and would have just taken his pc.

Thor drains them with a casual blast.

Originally posted by carver9
Thor drains them with a casual blast.

Really Carver? You think it’s so easy to drain the literal Big Bang energy from the Probes?

Pretty sure atleast one hero tried that in OWAW.

If the pc wasn’t involved then any run of the mill skyfather would be above galactus and Odin wouldn’t have tried to headbutt him while he was weakened and would have just taken his pc.

i don't know about that. maybe, but i think it was more the hammer than anything else. the lightning could have been amped i guess, but zeus did a number on galactus as well, and his amp was questionable. if odin had the hammer when he fought galactus it may have been a much different battle. or it could be different writers see their relative powers differently. thor hit g with a massive bolt when he first appeared in asgard although he was weakened there to some degree.

i think the distance between galactus and a skyfather has shrunk--a lot. in that same arc narration says that odin has fought wars that drove watchers mad just watching. could be that cates sees things differently from past writers.

@Squal, he straight up snatched the PC from Galactus and he did it casually. Galactus is far above them so yes, I feel that he could EASILY do the same to the Probes.

Originally posted by carver9
@Squal, he straight up snatched the PC from Galactus and he did it casually. Galactus is far above them so yes, I feel that he could EASILY do the same to the Probes.

You also know that the Probes aren’t sentient, but just a small piece of Imperiex’s will right?

Pretty one of the probes took hits from Thunder Bolt.

Originally posted by DantasKEdc
all probes
arent those probes like some recycling program that essentially has endless probes if their ship doesnt get destroyed iirc?
Edit: Yeah, Just checked it. There are basically endless probes if the ship that creating those probes doesnt get destroyed
https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/JSA-Our-Worlds-at-War/Full?id=113379#4

Originally posted by leonidas
i don't know about that. maybe, but i think it was more the hammer than anything else. the lightning could have been amped i guess, but zeus did a number on galactus as well, and his amp was questionable.

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Same.

Thor casually took pc from Galactus after consuming one of the super planets.
His power drain ability in that arc was no limits like.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
And Thor beat Galactus like that only due to power draining.

I got told in another thread that Thor wouldn't be able to drain, say, Thanos with no one really disputing that claim. Not sure how that showing can translate here?

Of course not. I don't think there's anybody quite at a level who thinks normal Thor without the PC and Odinfoce can drain an amped Galactus. And even with the Odin Force -- all he managed to do was get back the small portion that was endowed to him, then taken away, then got it back. He had the Odin Force + PC to drain Galactus completely.

As for the thread -- it depends what Asgard means, but most of it is fodder.

i'm not unsure about the need for the PC, but yeah, not without the OF for sure. thor's hammer is pretty haxx, but that's too big of a leap.

Originally posted by leonidas
i'm not unsure about the need for the PC, but yeah, not without the OF for sure. thor's hammer is pretty haxx, but that's too big of a leap.
It's hard for me to take it valid as a general energy absorption feat [i.e. say against Thanos or Odin himself, or Celestials and whatnot] even for Odin Power Thor given he was legit transformed/restructured not dissimilar to other heralds into a wielder in itself of the power cosmic:

https://ibb.co/PZsPYYk
[before]

https://ibb.co/rtgK06Y
https://ibb.co/ScHZPZN
https://ibb.co/4s9JGHJ
[after]

He essentially became specialized particularly in the Power Cosmic itself.

He almost seemed to "Shazam" himself with lightning in and out of the PC like against BRB:

https://ibb.co/hcc2Pmk
https://ibb.co/TBXPYYV

Then "Shazam"s it back:

https://ibb.co/Gt1qjQF
https://ibb.co/GVZf1QG

And once he was Cosmic [i.e. Odin + Power Cosmic] he managed to drain Galactus entirely again -- take it within his body and again manipulate it with lightning into exploding:

https://ibb.co/hVBv9rm
https://ibb.co/q5tPZH7
https://ibb.co/fXF07j5

Legit curious how you feel about it, but I see this as kind of saying that since a Green Lantern can absorb the emerald energy, he can do so to Thanos [approximation, but the first example that came to mind]. Thor was tailor made [literally turned into a herald] for the power cosmic there.

Originally posted by leonidas
i'm not unsure about the need for the PC, but yeah, not without the OF for sure. thor's hammer is pretty haxx, but that's too big of a leap.

Galactus in that arc took the PC from Thor and Thor snatched it back from Galactus as if it was nothing.