The Bad Batch

Am I blind, or do we not have a thread for this?

Watched the pilot today. Was good I thought.

Poor

Spoiler:
Depa Bilaba

It was nice yeah, hope that rumor that Vos is going to appear will prove true by the end of the season

Had forgotten about this, so thanks. Will watch tonight.

Do like that Ep 1 was released on May the 4th, instead of the usual Fridays.

So this episode completely retconned Depa Billaba's death and Kanon's escape... lmao

So much for "everything is canon". It's become increasingly clear that the comics/books are completely irrelevant.

Really enjoyed this. Its nice to have some quality animation back after that torture that was Resistance.

Originally posted by ares834
So this episode completely retconned Depa Billaba's death and Kanon's escape... lmao

So much for "everything is canon". It's become increasingly clear that the comics/books are completely irrelevant.

Yep.

That said the comic screwed that up anyway. This was in line with the dialogue from Rebels.

Originally posted by Total Warrior
It was nice yeah, hope that rumor that Vos is going to appear will prove true by the end of the season

Im sure he will. But best not to throw him on right away.

What was the contradiction between the comic and Rebels? And was it caused by a later season of Rebels?

Originally posted by ares834
What was the contradiction between the comic and Rebels? And was it caused by a later season of Rebels?

That Depas last word to Kanan was Run, and that he actually ran and left her to die. Dialogue when the GI was torturing Kanan.

In the comic he joins her and fights for a bit first. And her last words to him isnt to Run.

He did run though. After he fights briefly Depa tells him to run and he does.

Originally posted by ares834
He did run though. After he fights briefly Depa tells him to run and he does.

Yeah but it wasnt a scenario where hed feel so cowardly for leaving her. As She practically forces him after he fights alongside her. And Run wasnt her last word to him. Instead it was her last word of part 1 of that comic series facepalm

Sure it was. He knows she is lying and still runs. Plenty of reason for a character for like Kanan to feel guilty for running.

As for the last words, that's so irrelevant that I don't care. Sure, her last word wasn't literally "run" but that last thing she told him was to run.

Thought Depa would have put up a better fight honestly

Originally posted by ares834
Sure it was. He knows she is lying and still runs. Plenty of reason for a character for like Kanan to feel guilty for running.

Nah. GI specifically says what would your friends think if they knew. Staying to fight until it was pointless and Depa convinced him to go is very different to him not helping at all and then just running.

Originally posted by ares834
As for the last words, that's so irrelevant that I don't care. Sure, her last word wasn't literally "run" but that last thing she told him was to run.

It's not about what you care about. It's about canon being canon, and the comic version was clearly contradictory to the dialogue we got in Rebels. This was far more congruent, with zero contradictions clearly because Filoni was in charge of both.

Originally posted by Total Warrior
Thought Depa would have put up a better fight honestly

She was completely surrounded, and still the surprise factor was there, despite her blocking the initial shots.

Honestly she did far better than most the council. I wouldn't expect much better than that in Canon. Especially from a Jedi we haven't really spent much time with in Canon.

I remember back in the day people used to argue Depa would curb Anakin or Obi-wan.

She had a lot of hype in Shatterpoint.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Nah. GI specifically says what would your friends think if they knew. Staying to fight until it was pointless and Depa convinced him to go is very different to him not helping at all and then just running.

Nah. It's the same thing. Depa tells him to run and he runs.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
It's not about what you care about. It's about canon being canon, and the comic version was clearly contradictory to the dialogue we got in Rebels. This was far more congruent, with zero contradictions clearly because Filoni was in charge of both.

It was not "clearly contradictory". Kanan could have misremembered or he could be talking about the general idea. Ultimately, it's dialogue and dialogue is often not literal or even correct. The contradiction here is borderline irrelevant. However, depicting events in two completely different ways (which is what we had with BB and the comic) is a clear contradiction. It's also not the only time Filoni has done this.

Will watch this tonight.

I really liked Shatterpoint, though I haven't read it in years so I don't remember how horribly un-canon it might be. I just remember liking it.

Shatterpoint is really good(as are most of Stover's works.) Virtually nothing about it meshes with new canon, but it's still a great read on its own.

Enjoyed the episode for the most part.

A petty gripe I had was Lil' Kanan's voice. Kid was only supposed to be like 14 at this point, but he sounded like a 40 year old man.

Originally posted by ares834
So this episode completely retconned Depa Billaba's death and Kanon's escape... lmao

So much for "everything is canon". It's become increasingly clear that the comics/books are completely irrelevant.

2nd episode is up, because I guess they're going to come out on Fridays from now on, and the pilot was a special thing for May 4th.

Fine episode. Some interesting bits about the empire.

Originally posted by Galan007
The "everything is canon" rule doesn't mean SW lore is immune to retcons.

These aren't minor errors but a blatant disregard for the other material. Sure, Disney may continue to claim that this stuff is canon, but the guys running these shows like Filoni clearly have no qualms overwriting and disregarding what came before.