Darksaint's final post:
Spring Tourney Final
Post 3
Judges, I must confess - I have cheated most egregiously. For you see, despite Lobo being named as a Mid-Herald, he is far, FAR more than that. And that is not just me tooting my own usage of him, in canon, comics also state this:
Unfortunately for my esteemed opponent, however, forum rules of Full Capacity meant that low showings are pretty much inadmissible, and we HAVE to take into account his feats which ‘reach well into the near infinite strata’.
In short, his high showings. Not that those scans are needed, as we alwayshave ‘full capacity’ on anyway, but that was just a reminder that I have shown throughout this tourney, Lobo has showings which comics have given an explanation for. Call it Toon Force, call it outliers, call it whatever you want - just call them canon.
Btw - I noticed I had a broken link in my previous post. A reminder, that sulfuric acid is kept in glass bottles PRECISELY because it has no effect on it:
A reminder of Bentley’s ‘simple’ OP:
He'll get transmutated into glass and then we will teleport the body and throw him into the crater of the Kawah Ijen volcano https://www.pipeaway.com/kawah-ijen-volcanoEven if he was able to regenerate from having his glass body corroded by the sulfuric acid inside the volcano he'd be exposed to a highly poisonous environment
Judges, let’s recap, and I will run through the battle’s timeline with you. Match starts, and I throw everything, including (probably) the kitchen sink at him as I fly towards him, whilst he attempts to escape with MM, and fly at me with Superboy.
He tries to use Superboy’s TTK against me, with no proof that it would work. The bike has *incredible* durability of its own, able to survive the largest traffic accident in the cosmos’ history:
https://i.postimg.cc/mZ1xyRvy/RCO022-1469536543.jpg
Now, I am sure Bentley has some scans of the bike being destroyed. OK, good (although, judges, you *should* ignore them as they are new arguments being made, and Bentley specifically said he didn’t care about the durability). Thing is - that doesn’t mean Superboy can do so. We cannot simply give the TTK no limits. Can he use the TTK to disassemble WW’s bracers? Adamantium? Galactus’ ship? Galactus himself? The IG? Living beings like Superman? Perpetua?
So what then happens?
We know MM is human-level. Yes, I fully agree that he tangles with the Flash - but in a forum fight? Because if we wanted to go down that route:
Lobo chokes Superman out whilst they are facing each other, fighting:
https://justpaste.it/img/49cafec1ed980730515dd2120bb0ff4d.jpg
And the famous scan, overwhelms Superman with his speed - WHILST LOBO IS DRUNK:
Sure, I freely admit, there is scaling going on (along with my previous scans in post 2 which AREN’T scaling, btw). But there is a world of difference - had Bentley’s scan specifically had Jay remarking ‘Damn, McCulloch is too fast for me’, then we might have something. In MY scan, we clearly see Superman (Superboy’s superior) saying Lobo is too fast for him, and he didn’t even have time to react. THAT’S a clear difference in our proofs.
So if we can permit this tiny, infinitesimally small indulgence of mine, and assume the teensy tiny chance that a guy who is explicitly too fast by Superman’s own admission (whilst drunk) is somehow able to outspeed a mere human, then…
The entire battlefield erupts in bullets and explosions. McCulloch dies in the first instance. Superboy MAY survive (no proof given of his durability, btw) and he’s...what, trying to take my bike out? Which we have proven is pretty damn durable.
Then the issue, judges, is either he takes it out or he doesn’t. Let’s entertain the possibility he doesn’t take it out - then Lobo beats the crap out of him, either with nukes shoved into his mouth, or with planet killing shots, or with the Secret Exploding Numbers, or with the Red Lantern Ring, or by throwing a moon, or by simply beating the crap out of him, etc etc.
IF he does - so what? Lobo rode into this battle with his tongue under his teeth - the Clone Army will then arrive to beat the crap out of him, and potentially (literally) tear him to pieces. Not to mention, all I need do is say ‘One trillion’ and the entire city goes up in smoke.
What is worse for Bentley, is that if ANY ONE of the clones says it, that too explodes - they all have his memories and experience.
But let us ignore ALL of my tactics, and focus on Bentley’s.
Let us assume somehow, that a human is able to outspeed bullets. Outspeed planet killing blasts. Outspeed a nuclear explosion (I mean, McCulloch still has to physically draw his gun and pull the trigger, but let us assume he’s somehow got his gun ready). So he escapes.
Meanwhile, Superboy destroys the bike (because why not). And let us assume that Lobo, who has greater speed than Superman, lets him...freeze the area, to create surfaces for MM, and slow him down (ignoring, of course, the fact that Lobo literally rides around in deep space with no space suit, lol).
We assume all of this passes (note how ridiculous this is sounding?)
MM then pops up, transmutes Lobo (assuming he can, because he did it to random parademons, so why not, and in the next thread I will have MM fight the Phoenix Force and Perpetua and ALSO transmute them into glass because no limits) into glass, and then….
Superboy then flies over to Indonesia, throws this glass Lobo (who doesn’t do anything because of reasons) into a volcano, and...steps back to let it finish the job, either through sulphuric acid or the gas.
I am not sure this is hammered home hard enough, judges - but after EVERYTHING Bentley does, and IF we assume it all comes to pass, he still doesn’t actually finish the job, lol. This is almost comical in its cliched-ness. This is the equivalent of a hero turning his back on the movie monster, assured that it’s finally dead without even checking.
Lobo would simply transmute himself back (as he did with the snail) and vows vengeance on Superboy/MM. Maybe build a mirror gun of his own and fight human McCulloch in the Mirror World. As for that gas vulnerability?
His standard cigars are enough to kill humans, lol. I mean, not to mention he doesn’t breathe in space, but heyho, apparently Bentley ignores that.
Summary
Judges, for me to win, the only thing we have to assume, is that Lobo is faster than MM. That really is all there is to it. Whether it be Lobo saying ‘one trillion’ and the city/continent being destroyed, or a nuke, or his bike destroying the earth, either way, in the first instance there is going to be a massive AoE explosion. The bike itself is almost incidental - even IF Superboy takes it down, Lobo can still say a large number (not to mention clones etc). Bentley’s entire plan hinges on MM escaping with his human level reflexes to the Mirror World.
For Bentley to win, you have to assume MM is faster than a guy who was explicitly too fast for Superman.
That he can transmute Lobo (who shrugged off a reality warping lightning blast point blank), and in turn, that Lobo can’t transmute back (when he has shown he can warp the vessels his spirit inhabits).
That Lobo can’t do anything whilst in glass form (note how Bentley isn’t sure of this, as his OP entertains the possibility of regeneration).
That Superboy can destroy the bike (despite it casually traversing space and entering planetary atmospheres, being in giant explosions etc).
That the poison gas in a volcano is then sufficient to kill a guy who literally breathes poison gas for fun (and I am not even going to entertain the acid corroding the glass, as that cannot be an assumption - walk into any lab in the world and they will have acid stored in glass bottles).
Then after all of that, Bentley turns his back on Lobo, and goes off on his merry way without actually making sure he’s dead, lol. Whilst I have shown plenty of scans to show that there exists proof that Lobo would just come back.
And THEN, we have to assume Lobo doesn’t do anything in revenge (come on now).
Now sit back and ask, which is more plausible?
Thanks for reading, judges, and thanks for being the best opponent I could have had, Bentley. I almost did a completely different rewrite where I hilariously threw the match in your favour, and it would have been glorious, but the forum was not ready for it.
