This is sick, btw, but nothing's going to change.
The only way things like this will change is if, like I said before, we risk our lives to save these people. Angry mobs, crowds, etc.
How long till someone worse then Trump comes along and decides to go dictator on us? Then we won't have a choice but to fight back.
If not that then maybe only allow cops to carry firearms when there's a threat of deadly force REPORTED.
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
trying to invalidate an observation of the obvious racism in southern police culture by demanding statistical data can be well within bad faith territory. so because there is no all encompassing statistical database for "driving while black" police murders, I guess that means whirly was bad faith trolling? That's just a good faith observation?
No, if you make a statement about something it's just a good faith piece for you to support it rather than everyone just clapping. Most of the high visual cases have come from up north in the past year but that doesn't mean shit either, just what the media follows.
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
sickening tbh, how does this happen so much in the south of the US.
On Tuesday, South Carolina police officer Michael Slager was charged with murder in the shooting death of Walter L. Scott, after video evidence clearly showed Slager firing eight shots into Scott’s back as he fled. That’s extremely uncommon. Last month, The State newspaper in Columbia, South Carolina, identified 209 suspects in the state in the past five years who were fired at by police; 79 died. The State could find only three police officers who were charged with a crime in connection with any of the 209 shootings.
SHOOTING VICTIMS % BLACK
STATE BLACK NOT BLACK VICTIMS STATE POP. GAP
Rhode Island 1 0 100% 9% 91
D.C. 8 0 100 51 49
New Jersey 16 10 62 16 46
Ohio 26 21 55 14 42
Maryland 29 11 73 32 41
Illinois 24 23 51 16 35
Missouri 20 23 47 13 34
Massachusetts 7 10 41 9 32
New York 24 25 49 19 30
Georgia 27 17 61 32 29
North Carolina 24 23 51 23 28
Alabama 17 16 52 27 24
Oklahoma 16 34 32 9 23
Wisconsin 6 14 30 7 23
Florida 56 87 39 18 21
Pennsylvania 10 20 33 13 21
Indiana 8 18 31 11 20
Virginia 7 10 41 21 20
Arkansas 4 7 36 16 20
Alaska 1 3 25 5 20
Louisiana 18 17 51 33 18
Connecticut 2 5 29 13 16
Kansas 5 17 23 8 15
Michigan 7 16 30 15 15
Nebraska 2 8 20 6 14
Minnesota 4 17 19 7 12
South Carolina 12 18 40 29 11
Tennessee 10 26 28 18 10
California 46 220 17 8 10
Texas 36 128 22 13 9
West Virginia 1 7 13 4 8
Kentucky 4 20 17 9 8
Colorado 4 32 11 5 6
Arizona 8 66 11 6 5
Mississippi 9 12 43 38 5
Washington 4 39 9 5 4
New Mexico 2 26 7 3 4
Nevada 3 20 13 10 3
Utah 1 22 4 2 2
Oregon 1 26 4 3 1
Montana 0 7 0 1 -1
Idaho 0 9 0 1 -1
Vermont 0 2 0 2 -2
Maine 0 9 0 2 -2
New Hampshire 0 4 0 2 -2
Wyoming 0 2 0 2 -2
North Dakota 0 2 0 2 -2
South Dakota 0 5 0 2 -2
Hawaii 0 8 0 4 -4
Delaware 1 4 20 24 -4
Iowa 0 14 0 4 -4
United States 511 1,180 30 14 16
The Mapping Police Violence project arrived at these numbers by merging and checking several databases, primarily the one called “Killed By Police,” which we audited last year and found to be a mostly reliable aggregator of news reports. Researchers with Mapping Police Violence check each report and exclude those that are ambiguous.
The project counted 1,913 total deaths between August 2013 and March 2015, an annual rate of 1,150 deaths, similar to a recent estimate by other researchers for the annual rate in 2003 through 2009 and 2011. For about 60 percent of the 1,913 deaths, the databases used by the Mapping Police Violence researchers had information on the victim’s race. They managed to find race information for another approximately 30 percent of killings from obituaries, social media, news reports and criminal records, according to Sam Sinyangwe, a statistician, researcher and advocate with Mapping Police Violence.
That leaves about 10 percent of people killed by police without an identified race; they are excluded from the table above. These victims aren’t distributed evenly across states, which could skew the percentages. For instance, if a city with a high African-American population doesn’t report the race of people its police agency has killed, the proportion of victims in that state who are African-American may be artificially low in the data.
“Where you live very much determines your likelihood of being killed by police,” Sinyangwe said in a telephone interview. He said the data raises the question, “What are the underlying policies and practices, or the culture, of police departments that are allowing for this and facilitating these higher levels of police violence? And the converse is, what is going well in these other states, and what can we learn from that?”
Only glanced at Texas and Co. but it seems very different to places like Jersey per capita in the Southern States. 🙂
What isn’t unusual is the race of the victim. Of those 79 people in South Carolina who were fatally shot by police, 43 percent (34 people) were African-American. That’s a higher proportion than the African-American share of the state’s population, which was 29 percent in the 2013 census population estimates.
Assessing those disparities is difficult without knowing the racial breakdown of people involved in violent interactions with police, or while police are present — and therefore are at higher risk of being hurt by police. Whatever the popular impression of that racial breakdown may be, there are no statistics that measure violent confrontations with the police by race. We do know, however, that the proportion of arrests that are of African-Americans is close to the proportion of killings by police that are of African-Americans. (According to the FBI, 28 percent of people arrested in the U.S. in 2013 were African-American. To compare, according to data from a project called Mapping Police Violence, 30 percent of people killed by police in the U.S. from August 2013 through March 2015 were African-American. The percentage of people arrested in South Carolina in 2012 who were African-American was 44 percent, compared to 40 percent of those killed.)
Originally posted by Klaw
Another bait thread.
You can literally hear one of the cops gleefully comment "yeah, yeah, that shit hurts, doesn't it!" as they're torturing Ronald Greene while he's handcuffed and on the floor. Another comments how they "beat the shit out of him" when he was speaking about it after the murder happened.
Why you Tumpers always try to defend police brutality (this time via a deflection) when it's directed against Black people is just nutty to me.
“Where you live very much determines your likelihood of being killed by police,” Sinyangwe said in a telephone interview.
My only concern about that analysis is dividing up numbers by state which is pretty useless, it should be done by counties in the state. That would be much more useful for extrapolating data points.
Top cop in Black man’s deadly arrest withheld cam video
In perhaps the strongest evidence yet of an attempted cover-up in the deadly 2019 arrest of Ronald Greene, the ranking Louisiana State Police officer at the scene falsely told internal investigators that the Black man was still a threat to flee after he was shackled, and he denied the existence of his own body camera video for nearly two years until it emerged just last month. -snip
They literally tortured Greene while he wasn't resisting, gloated about it and then proceeded to cover it up.