Originally posted by Jmanghan
I used them accidentally after coming off a newer game, yes, and then I got severely punished for it and lost like 30-40 minutes of progress.
Originally posted by Jmanghan
I'm blaming the RE games for using Ink Ribbons, Silent Hill games are way scarier and they never did any of that BS.RE is one of the only survival horror games that use limited saves.
When they were in KC: D everybody complained about the limited saving like it was the end of the world, but when someone complains about something similar in a game like this it's automatically invalid.
Why would a game want to purposefully piss me off? Dark Souls didn't piss me off as bad when I lost to Ornstein and Smough 20+ times as I did dying after having no more ink ribbons in RE0.
It's like I said before: you're stuck on the fear thing. The "survival" portion of survival horror comes with punishing you for being wasteful. It's not necessarily about scaring you, although it can help support feelings of fear.
Originally posted by StyleTime
I should give you a heads up since you're planning on playing the originals too.In the main series, every game before 4 uses ink ribbons.
It was part of their approach to building tension. There was a sacrifice for basically everything you do. You had to manage resources or else you'd wind up with no ribbons left.
Never been a problem for me in 2, never even thought about having enough.
Most frustrating thing was the rank system, pre internet and having no real way to know why I kept getting B's all the time.
Originally posted by Smasandian
Doesn't most typerwriters have an item box right beside them were you can just put the ink ribbons there anyways.I just ink ribbons an unnecessary item where negatives far outweigh any positives.
Alien Isolation save system is by far way more intense than anything RE has ever done and it doesn't use a save item.
That said, Isolation was only scarier when trying to save while enemies were close. The thought of never being able to save again if you blew your supplies was far more unsettling to me, granted there were usually enough that that wasn't really going to happen. When running for your unlocks for example, it's pretty sweat-inducing when you realize you can only save 3 times in RE2.
Originally posted by cdtm
Never been a problem for me in 2, never even thought about having enough.Most frustrating thing was the rank system, pre internet and having no real way to know why I kept getting B's all the time.
The standard practice these days is just to default to auto-saves, but I'd be interested in horror titles trying out some more risk-based saving systems. Kinda like Dark Souls and Dead Cells bringing the Roguelike save system into the modern world.
Alien Isolation was an interesting one, but that was in 2014.
Originally posted by BackFire
I never got far in Zero because of the odd inventory system.
I'm an RE fanboy though, so I guess it didn't bother me much. I had a blast with RE0.
Anyway, I'd recommend checking out the titles after RE4 Jmanghan. You won't have to worry about ink ribbons, even in REmake 2 and 3.
They are present in REmake 1 though.
They are tons of RE fans who only play for lore though, and just drop the difficulty down to casual/easy. Nothing wrong with that, and it gives you more ink ribbons to work with. It'd actually give unlimited ink ribbons in 3(original one). You could try that if you want to play the older ones.
I'm sorry for pissing people off, I realize it's designed to induce more fear, tension, and stress, but it honestly only made me angry and made me not want to continue.
For reference in KC: D I also used the unlimited saves mod so I guess limited saves just aren't my thing.
I adored RE:4 but so far my time with RE0 (even besides the saving) has been kind of lackluster in comparison.
Originally posted by Jmanghan
I'm sorry for pissing people off, I realize it's designed to induce more fear, tension, and stress, but it honestly only made me angry and made me not want to continue.For reference in KC: D I also used the unlimited saves mod so I guess limited saves just aren't my thing.
I adored RE:4 but so far my time with RE0 (even besides the saving) has been kind of lackluster in comparison.
I just disagreed that it was a bad mechanic in its day. A producer said they couldn't figure out how to implement them in 5, and I'm fine with the idea it doesn't fit thematically with modern RE titles. Maybe them using Tapes/Ribbons only on harder difficulty settings in games like RE7 and RE2make is the right call. Same way RE8 Standard felt way too forgiving for my tastes, so I switched to Hardcore. I think they just settled on satisfying different tastes through the various difficulty settings.
Originally posted by Jmanghan
However, I guess I would say using all my saves up is on me, but as someone who likes to play horror games cautiously as ****, I like to save after every teeny tiny action. It is annoying to go from silent hill where you were rewarded for doing so, to something like RE0 where it punishes you.
I love Silent Hill as well, but it's going for a different experience. The difficulty isn't necessarily baked into the gameplay like with RE. You can stroll past the majority of enemies wandering around Silent Hill streets. While avoidance is a strategy in RE, as with most survival horror titles, things like combat and inventory management are leaned on more heavily to build discomfort. Silent Hill usually has infinite inventory space, on the other hand.
I just don't know if ink ribbons would make much of a difference in Silent Hill tbh. You're not at risk of dying outside of certain encounters, so you don't need to save that often anyway. And you wouldn't even sacrifice item slots Silent Hill usually has infinite space as I said before.
Originally posted by KazenjiYep. Completely different genres that benefit from completely different gameplay mechanics. Kind of a senseless comparison.
Fallout and Resident Evil are two different style games, Apples & Oranges basically.
Limited saves in horror enhance the experience. I wish every RE game had ink ribbons as an option. RE7, 3, and 8 all having unlimited saves annoyed the hell out of me.