Originally posted by Newjak
I would like to point out as well that the threshold for getting banned on this site went up significantly after it became a dead forum walking.I know some of the things people post today would have gotten them almost instantly banned at the height of KMC.
Please stay on topic. This has nothing to do with whether or not kmc is predominantly "leftist". any further attempt at derailment, and I will start handing out official warnings.
^^that would have been the mod reply. oh wait, this obvious whiney bait thread would have been instantly locked and/or deleted, so I guess things weren't all that bad when the old mods held sway
Originally posted by Bashar Teg😆 😆 😆
Please stay on topic. This has nothing to do with whether or not kmc is predominantly "leftist". any further attempt at derailment, and I will start handing out official warnings.^^that would have been the mod reply. oh wait, this obvious whiney bait thread would have been instantly locked and/or deleted, so I guess things weren't all that bad when the old mods held sway
It's not that kmc is an leftist echo chamber it's that totalitarian control is once again on the rise, in my opinion leading to a similar crescendo seen in the 20th century, and people are scared or benefitting from the increased statism.
No poor person, who was just handed a free 1400 dollars is going to want to engage with me about inflationary monetary policy.
Then there's the inertia of public school brainwashing being picked up in adulthood by the state sponsored media/legacy media i.e. msbnc, CNN, fox, whatever.
I'm sure all the people who are leftist here benefit enormously fr the state, from Blake being a total non producer-consumer to whirly benefitting from trade unions using the state to keep whatever faction he's in happy.
My point isn't that they're bad for that, just not special compared to the majority of people outside of kmc.
The gop has had a leftwards slant to reflect that leftification of society.
I don't mind the lefty policies ratcheting us towards fascism tho, the thing that stopped the malfeasance of the USSR wasn't leadership change or reform, it was near total collapse.
This is a sort of right winged accelerationism that can be imagined as a walk home from school.
Imagine there's a shortcut that cuts walking time in half, but on the way through the short cut a huge scary dog is there and he growls at you.
You can either live in fear and walk the long or walk the short way and be equally uncomfortable.
Or you can tease the dog until it barks so much that the neighbor of the dog owner calls the cops.
The neighbor who resorts to the cops/the state is the leftist, the dog is the twitter mob, and the dog owner is leftist thought in it's totality.
I'm the right wing guy who will have a short and quiet walk home.
Originally posted by ilikecomics😆 😆 😆
It's not that kmc is an leftist echo chamber it's that totalitarian control is once again on the rise, in my opinion leading to a similar crescendo seen in the 20th century, and people are scared or benefitting from the increased statism.No poor person, who was just handed a free 1400 dollars is going to want to engage with me about inflationary monetary policy.
Then there's the inertia of public school brainwashing being picked up in adulthood by the state sponsored media/legacy media i.e. msbnc, CNN, fox, whatever.
I'm sure all the people who are leftist here benefit enormously fr the state, from Blake being a total non producer-consumer to whirly benefitting from trade unions using the state to keep whatever faction he's in happy.
My point isn't that they're bad for that, just not special compared to the majority of people outside of kmc.
The gop has had a leftwards slant to reflect that leftification of society.
I don't mind the lefty policies ratcheting us towards fascism tho, the thing that stopped the malfeasance of the USSR wasn't leadership change or reform, it was near total collapse.
This is a sort of right winged accelerationism that can be imagined as a walk home from school.
Imagine there's a shortcut that cuts walking time in half, but on the way through the short cut a huge scary dog is there and he growls at you.
You can either live in fear and walk the long or walk the short way and be equally uncomfortable.
Or you can tease the dog until it barks so much that the neighbor of the dog owner calls the cops.The neighbor who resorts to the cops/the state is the leftist, the dog is the twitter mob, and the dog owner is leftist thought in it's totality.
I'm the right wing guy who will have a short and quiet walk home.
Originally posted by ilikecomics😂 🤣
It's not that kmc is an leftist echo chamber it's that totalitarian control is once again on the rise, in my opinion leading to a similar crescendo seen in the 20th century, and people are scared or benefitting from the increased statism.No poor person, who was just handed a free 1400 dollars is going to want to engage with me about inflationary monetary policy.
Then there's the inertia of public school brainwashing being picked up in adulthood by the state sponsored media/legacy media i.e. msbnc, CNN, fox, whatever.
I'm sure all the people who are leftist here benefit enormously fr the state, from Blake being a total non producer-consumer to whirly benefitting from trade unions using the state to keep whatever faction he's in happy.
My point isn't that they're bad for that, just not special compared to the majority of people outside of kmc.
The gop has had a leftwards slant to reflect that leftification of society.
I don't mind the lefty policies ratcheting us towards fascism tho, the thing that stopped the malfeasance of the USSR wasn't leadership change or reform, it was near total collapse.
This is a sort of right winged accelerationism that can be imagined as a walk home from school.
Imagine there's a shortcut that cuts walking time in half, but on the way through the short cut a huge scary dog is there and he growls at you.
You can either live in fear and walk the long or walk the short way and be equally uncomfortable.
Or you can tease the dog until it barks so much that the neighbor of the dog owner calls the cops.The neighbor who resorts to the cops/the state is the leftist, the dog is the twitter mob, and the dog owner is leftist thought in it's totality.
I'm the right wing guy who will have a short and quiet walk home.
Originally posted by Klaw
People here are so far Left, that anyone to the right of them (Center Left) is automatically labeled a Right Winger.
My problem would be no one has ever told me what they think the delineation between right and left is
To me, in an ELI5 style, left equals liking governmental intervention in the economy and the right doesn't. The farther you go either way the more true this is.
I've been ridiculed for that view so who really knows ?!
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
Please stay on topic. This has nothing to do with whether or not kmc is predominantly "leftist". any further attempt at derailment, and I will start handing out official warnings.^^that would have been the mod reply. oh wait, this obvious whiney bait thread would have been instantly locked and/or deleted, so I guess things weren't all that bad when the old mods held sway
People only listen to bans, so what's the point?
Originally posted by ilikecomicsI think a delineation using only the economy is a way for conservatives to feel better about being conservative.
My problem would be no one has ever told me what they think the delineation between right and left isTo me, in an ELI5 style, left equals liking governmental intervention in the economy and the right doesn't. The farther you go either way the more true this is.
I've been ridiculed for that view so who really knows ?!
That way they can ignore all the silly social parts they don't like. Or they can pretend they just care about the economy more because it matters more. This is where a lot of libertarians start to come in.
Originally posted by Newjak
I think a delineation using only the economy is a way for conservatives to feel better about being conservative.That way they can ignore all the silly social parts they don't like. Or they can pretend they just care about the economy more because it matters more. This is where a lot of libertarians start to come in.
Yeah, I've seen people say that but they didnt provide an argument.
This is my version of what you said:
Leftists think the political spectrum should include things outside the economy, so they can pretend the economy doesn't matter.
Also in response to your claim, that's why we use the political axis, which has a x and y plane. Left to right deals with economics, up and down deals with the other stuff.
Do you have a critic of that metric as well ?
@blake
If you say you believe in the free market then you can't say you support government intervention into the economy, this includes taxation, regulation, protectionism, war, etc.
However, you could say you believe in a fairly free economy, but that statement could apply to modern china, soooooo....