French President Macron slapped by alleged Far Right Royalist

Originally posted by ilikecomics
I sell books for a living and read every day.

I just read games and infinite games by James p carse, because it was mentioned in present shock by Douglas roushkoff, which I also read.
Before that I finished human action by Ludwig von mises and now I'm reading democracy:the god that failed.

You can get it for 25-40 bucks online, or you can buy my copy when I'm done with it, only have 30 or so pages left.

After you read it, you can email him and call him a retard if you want.

Wow. By that reasoning, the salesperson at the car dealership must build the cars too. What a complete fool.

Originally posted by Scribble
lmao I bet Adam has read zero actual academic texts. Probably read Fire & Fury and that's it for the past ten years. True brainlet, ngl.

Adam is the kinda guy to watch Drag Race and CNN and consider it praxis.

You got catfished by a pervert on a dead message board, and coerced into performing sexual acts on camera for his amusement. That is some real galaxy-brained thinker stuff right there.

Originally posted by Scribble
Nah, they're not. I'm "Far Left" because I consider Capitalism to be the true enemy of humanity, and a force that must be toppled to progress humanity to a better place. I would support subjugation of corporations on a state level, despite disliking the state in general (necessary evil in a vile world). I believe in absolute free healthcare and an abolishment of coercive institutions such as forced labour, and would push the bourgeoisie through a sausage grinder to achieve such an end. Foreign intervention is always wrong, in fact, War Is Murder.

Anyone who supports Biden is not in any way 'Left'. Bidencrats are centre to centre-right, but nobody understands the political spectrum anymore.

Berniecrats are Left, Bernie is borderline Far Left (barely), but being part of the Democrat Part of America, he would never lead a Leftist party. They will always be Capitalist Scum, Centrists, and Warmongers.

We just disagree on capitalism, which is a big difference, but agree on alot. Appreciate your posts.

If you are democratic in any form, you are not truly "Far Left". Democracy is authoritarian by nature.

Originally posted by Scribble
Fascism is a natural outcropping of a Democratic system anyway. My source is every Fascist nation in history.

If anyone thinks Trump is earnestly a fascist then y'know he did kinda get democratically elected, so maybe those precious democratic systems aren't as great as some like to pretend.

What alternative do you favor?

Originally posted by Artol
What alternative do you favor?

My alternative is natural order; based on non aggression, property rights, and mutually consented trade.

Originally posted by Artol
What alternative do you favor?

Politically I am a Pessimist, i.e. I do not have any hope that humanity will outgrow its teenagehood, and generally believe that the global Capitalist system we have created, bolstered by this grotesque tyranny of Democracy and Neoliberal attitudes, will likely cause our extinction before too long.

I will probably vote as Left as possible if I believe there is a chance they may win, but again, I'm pretty pessimistic about the chances of that happening. I also believe that if there is a 'prole uprising' in my country or the US, the chances are it will be reactionary, and thus fascistic.

Hope I kind of answered the question and didn't just ramble lol.

Originally posted by Scribble
Philosophically I am a Left-Anarchist, but that's not to say I'd have the system suddenly 'implemented', I just think that if I were to envision a 'perfect' natural world order, it would be one where we outgrow the need for strict systems and coercive economic models and start to properly govern ourselves, as it were. So I try to carry myself in an anarchistic sense, where I follow rules I consider moral / justified, and defy others without making a statement about it. No gods / no masters, etc., you know what Left-Anarchism is.

Politically I am a Pessimist, i.e. I do not have any hope that humanity will outgrow its teenagehood, and generally believe that the global Capitalist system we have created, bolstered by this grotesque tyranny of Democracy and Neoliberal attitudes, will likely cause our extinction before too long.

I will probably vote as Left as possible if I believe there is a chance they may win, but again, I'm pretty pessimistic about the chances of that happening. I also believe that if there is a 'prole uprising' in my country or the US, the chances are it will be reactionary, and thus fascistic.

Hope I kind of answered the question and didn't just ramble lol.

It's amazing how much you get correct, then take a LEFT turn into commie ville.

I don't disagree with anything you said in this specific post.

Originally posted by ilikecomics
It's amazing how much you get correct, then take a LEFT turn into commie ville.

I don't disagree with anything you said in this specific post.

I'm sympathetic to communism, i.e. actual ideological communism (not auth-state communism), because its end goal is a form of communal-anarchism that I agree with, but I don't think a Dictatorship of the Proletariat would end in anything but continued tyranny and murder, etc. That's my Pessimist side coming out again lol.

Originally posted by Scribble
I mean yeah I'm definitely left-wing, I spent time playing with more conservative and capitalist ideas and eventually unspooled them and realised I couldn't defend them. Markets are possible under left-anarchism but coercive economic systems defeat the point of anarchism in general. An anarchist system that is not approached from a left-perspective will inevitably lead into a corpo-feudal system, which I am not a fan of at all. Money is slavery.

I'm sympathetic to communism, i.e. actual ideological communism (not auth-state communism), because its end goal is a form of communal-anarchism that I agree with, but I don't think a Dictatorship of the Proletariat would end in anything but continued tyranny and murder, etc. That's my Pessimist side coming out again lol.

Have you came across a way to avoid or replace money ?

You're right about communism, you're not being pessimistic.

Originally posted by ilikecomics
Have you came across a way to avoid or replace money ?

You're right about communism, you're not being pessimistic.

Where is the point in an anarchist society if you are still restrained by basic survival needs? That isn't freedom, and it creates the circumstances for servitude. Hence why any form of anarchism without a left-leaning modern social approach would only ever result in new feudal or monarchist systems developing.

Any future I can imagine as in any way positive must be built by moving past, 'dismantling' (the safest method) or destroying Capitalism. Hence why I'm distinctly Left, etc.

“My nation is the world and my religion is to do good.” - Thomas Paine, one of the founding fathers of America.

Originally posted by ilikecomics
My alternative is natural order; based on non aggression, property rights, and mutually consented trade.

Random question, but just out of curiosity, do you believe in needing a driving licence to drive.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Random question, but just out of curiosity, do you believe in needing a driving licence to drive.

No.

I don't believe in any licensing requirements enforced by coercion.

Originally posted by Scribble
Utilising technology to remove Need. Thus people have all they need (food, clothing, shelter), and can then trade various things for other things they Want. And people would be free to create whatever they like and do whatever they like. Technology is already at a point where most jobs are pointless, Capitalism just keeps dreaming up new bureaucratic absurdities to keep people servile, chained and exploited.

Where is the point in an anarchist society if you are still restrained by basic survival needs? That isn't freedom, and it creates the circumstances for servitude. Hence why any form of anarchism without a left-leaning modern social approach would only ever result in new feudal or monarchist systems developing.

Any future I can imagine as in any way positive must be built by moving past, 'dismantling' (the safest method) or destroying Capitalism. Hence why I'm distinctly Left, etc.

If everyone hase free access to say, water, how is this possible without a centralized control of the water ?

To me, the choice is either socialism, which collapses into violence every time, or free trade aka civilization.

Originally posted by ilikecomics
If everyone hase free access to say, water, how is this possible without a centralized control of the water ?

To me, the choice is either socialism, which collapses into violence every time, or free trade aka civilization.

Free access to clean water is not some superhuman hippy-dippy goal, it's really ****ing easy.

"Free trade" is not even really a thing. Monopolies arise instantly and thus freedom is annihilated in the same stroke. Freedom will not exist until people learn to fully co-operate and enact global mutual aid. Left-wing anarchist ideals are our only road to what could be considered 'true liberty'

Originally posted by ilikecomics
No.

I don't believe in any licensing requirements enforced by coercion.

Okay thanks for your honesty. Was just confirming what I heard about the views of Libertarians.

Originally posted by Scribble
I haven't seen 'civilisation' work yet lmao, goes for 'socialism' (which has always existed in a capitalist world anyway) and especially the nightmarescape of Capitalism. Just poverty and hellish murder everywhere. Everything fails. We're humans. We're ****ing useless.

Free access to clean water is not some superhuman hippy-dippy goal, it's really ****ing easy.

"Free trade" is not even really a thing. Monopolies arise instantly and thus freedom is annihilated in the same stroke. Freedom will not exist until people learn to fully co-operate and enact global mutual aid. Left-wing anarchist ideals are our only road to what could be considered 'true liberty'

Civilization = free association, respect of property rights, and free trade.
If you look at the work of Steven pinker in the better angels of our nature, you'd know overall that violence is decreasing. A decrease in violence is a good toward the production and protection of civilization.

You and I now are in a free association that is violence free and arbitrated by mods, not cops. No one is forcing us to be here, this is civilization.

Free trade is an exchange by two parties, so websites like EBay or depop disagree that free trade doesn't exist.

Monopolies only exist via the violence of the government or they naturally arise if a company can make the most efficient use of the factors of production to provide for the wants of the consumer. I'm against the former and very much for the latter.

Everything doesn't fail or we wouldn't have skyscrapers, literature, the internet, Bitcoin etc. This is where your pessimism shows imo

When you say you want free water I immediately think of other places with free water... Free food, free room and board, where forced equality is a virtue... Those exist and they're called prisons.

The division of labor is the ultimate expression of humans working together and the quintessential mechanism for civilization to manifest.

I beg you to read this, it illuminates how beautiful the division of labor is and how it accomplishes the impossible.
It's not very long and you don't have to agree with it, but you'll know one of the things that put the passion of the artist in my gut.

https://mises.org/library/i-pencil

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Okay thanks for your honesty. Was just confirming what I heard about the views of Libertarians.

I'm always honest about my views. The ideas are beautiful poetry and I want to tell as many people as possible.

To me I am a window maker. This means my job is to make my window so flawlessly you can hardly tell it's there. The beautiful view beyond the window is the idea.

Do you take licensing via force as an inherent good ?

Originally posted by ilikecomics
Civilization = free association, respect of property rights, and free trade.
If you look at the work of Steven pinker in the better angels of our nature, you'd know overall that violence is decreasing. A decrease in violence is a good toward the production and protection of civilization.

You and I now are in a free association that is violence free and arbitrated by mods, not cops. No one is forcing us to be here, this is civilization.

Free trade is an exchange by two parties, so websites like EBay or depop disagree that free trade doesn't exist.

Monopolies only exist via the violence of the government or they naturally arise if a company can make the most efficient use of the factors of production to provide for the wants of the consumer. I'm against the former and very much for the latter.

Everything doesn't fail or we wouldn't have skyscrapers, literature, the internet, Bitcoin etc. This is where your pessimism shows imo

When you say you want free water I immediately think of other places with free water... Free food, free room and board, where forced equality is a virtue... Those exist and they're called prisons.

The division of labor is the ultimate expression of humans working together and the quintessential mechanism for civilization to manifest.

I beg you to read this, it illuminates how beautiful the division of labor is and how it accomplishes the impossible.
It's not very long and you don't have to agree with it, but you'll know one of the things that put the passion of the artist in my gut.

https://mises.org/library/i-pencil

Your ideas are cool and cute but forget to account for way too many factors. If you don't support forms of mutual aid you're basically a eugenicist, and that ain't no anarchism by me. Your idea of life sounds like forced labour under landlords and bosses to make ends meet, not humanity cooperating to make life free and accessible to, you know, humans.

I get the perspective but it holds no ground imo. It's just Capitalist Feudalism.

Utilising technology to remove Need

That utopia will never happen.