SHAZAM Vs She-Hulk

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11124/111244877/8028091-ead9a59f-dcca-4f9a-959c-b8be6ecb54b5.jpeg

From Avengers issue 29 before her celestial amp she stomped Jane Thor as well, who had to resort to incapacitating Jen and fleeing.

After the celestial amp she beat up 2 Gods who have given Savage Hulk problems in the past. (Chernobog at the very least)

You’d have to post scans of Billy using his speed in such a manner I don’t remember ever seeing him do that unless it’s someone else borrowing his power in the Shazam family.

Ok. But that seems like a weak attack. It did almost nothing to Terrax. She better off punching.
Superspeed is part if his power set.
The fact that you him share this power with his family. Speed of mercury.

Originally posted by h1a8
Why? Are you arguing that he doesn't have superspeed and reactions as his power set?

Answer yes or no.

Yes, that is what I'm arguing. Now post fts.

Billy would own Terrax too.

Nope

Originally posted by carver9
Nope

SM is at his highest. Terrax is more of a mid tier.

Originally posted by carver9
Yes, that is what I'm arguing. Now post fts.

Is stated to have the speed of the God Mercury.
When he shares his power with family you clearly see that they use that power exclusively. Writer's intent.

He has superspeed in his power set. You are trolling if you argue he doesn't.

Originally posted by h1a8
Ok. But that seems like a weak attack. It did almost nothing to Terrax. She better off punching.
Superspeed is part if his power set.
The fact that you him share this power with his family. Speed of mercury.

So are we arguing powersets or characters? Cause off issues and appearances it feels like your arguing what Billy could do theoretically vs what he’s typically shown to do.

Terrax is a herald and a planet buster. He jobs some times but he’s still above Post-Flashpoint Shazam in terms of raw power

Originally posted by h1a8
Is stated to have the speed of the God Mercury.
When he shares his power with family you clearly see that they use that power exclusively. Writer's intent.

He has superspeed in his power set. You are trolling if you argue he doesn't.

This is not how debating works. Post scans, please.

Against WW.
https://imgur.com/a/f8Jaeq0

Look, I don't even care here, lmao. I am just having fun with Carv.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
So are we arguing powersets or characters? Cause off issues and appearances it feels like your arguing what Billy could do theoretically vs what he’s typically shown to do.

Terrax is a herald and a planet buster. He jobs some times but he’s still above Post-Flashpoint Shazam in terms of raw power

I usually argue one thing at a time. Right now the argument is whether Shazam possess superhuman speed or not.
He has the speed of Mercury. This speed can be seen more clearly when he SHARES his power. The key word is SHARE.
This is common sense.

The 2nd argument is whether Shazam would choose to use his speed.
A character wouldn't purposely choose not to use speed if they believed they are going to lose if they don't.

Shazam might start the fight with no speed for whatever silly reason you want to make up but he will certainly use it if he's getting beat and on the verge of losing.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Against WW.
https://imgur.com/a/f8Jaeq0

Look, I don't even care here, lmao. I am just having fun with Carv.

This post isn't fun, though.

Originally posted by h1a8
I usually argue one thing at a time. Right now the argument is whether Shazam possess superhuman speed or not.
He has the speed of Mercury. This speed can be seen more clearly when he SHARES his power. The key word is SHARE.
This is common sense.

The 2nd argument is whether Shazam would choose to use his speed.
A character wouldn't purposely choose not to use speed if they believed they are going to lose if they don't.

Shazam might start the fight with no speed for whatever silly reason you want to make up but he will certainly use it if he's getting beat and on the verge of losing.

You have examples of him using his speed because he was losing a fight? Or is this more theorizing?

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
So are we arguing powersets or characters? Cause off issues and appearances it feels like your arguing what Billy could do theoretically vs what he’s typically shown to do.

Terrax is a herald and a planet buster. He jobs some times but he’s still above Post-Flashpoint Shazam in terms of raw power

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Kinda like arguing powersets too. Yeah, Terrax might be a planet buster but he has also consistently been everyone's punchdumpster ever since his inception.

Jobbing doesn’t really contradict him being a planet buster though. And even then one can easily post scans of Terrax planet busting. There seems to be a runaround on displaying Shazam using his speed in the way it’s being argued here. Racing Wonder Woman isn’t really combat applicable.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Kinda like arguing powersets too. Yeah, Terrax might be a planet buster but he has also consistently been everyone's punchdumpster ever since his inception.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Jobbing doesn’t really contradict him being a planet buster though. And even then one can easily post scans of Terrax planet busting. There seems to be a runaround on displaying Shazam using his speed in the way it’s being argued here. Racing Wonder Woman isn’t really combat applicable.

In a race, it's both travel speed and reaction speeds. He outreacted her, and beat her to the moon.

Of course, the main reason I used it is because WW is Carv's measuring stick.

I think the issue is that unless you're a flash speed means nothing in most battles