Exploiting division will always lead to tragedy.

Started by Old Man Whirly!3 pages

Disagree for the reasons, I have stated many times before. It's a ludicrous system which puts many populace areas at the whim off rural areas which are less populace.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Disagree for the reasons, I have stated many times before. It's a ludicrous system which puts many populace areas at the whim off rural areas which are less populace.
So the majority should rule over the minority, even when it is 51% to 49%?

Originally posted by Scribble
So the majority should rule over the minority, even when it is 51% to 49%?
sure. That's majority rule and in America a few million people.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
sure. That's majority rule and in America a few million people.
So you agree that Brexit was a fair democratic vote, then? Because iirc Brexit got passed on roughly that kind of close-split vote (52% leave vs 48% remain)

(I voted Remain)

Originally posted by Scribble
So you agree that Brexit was a fair democratic vote, then? Because iirc Brexit got passed on roughly that kind of close-split vote (52% leave vs 48% remain)

(I voted Remain)

I have never objected to the result. I objected to the process how the result came about. I feel the vote leave group should have been sanctioned more over all the rules that were broken and I wonder if where the rules of engagement have been breached and legal action has been taken successfully a victory should be lauded. I have never suggested storming our capital not Capitol because I respect the rule of law. There was a strong case for another vote however.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
sure. That's majority rule and in America a few million people.

The EC is an antiquated and now corrupt system, why Rightist are the ones most eager to keep it.

Everyone's vote should count the same. Be it they're from California or Colorado. One person, one equal vote, the person with the most votes wins.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
I have never objected to the result. I objected to the process how the result came about. I feel the vote leave group should have been sanctioned more over all the rules that were broken and I wonder if where the rules of engagement have been breached and legal action has been taken successfully a victory should be lauded. I have never suggested storming our capital not Capitol because I respect the rule of law. There was a strong case for another vote however.
Yeah, fair enough. I mostly agree, I think the idea for the vote in the first place was highly irresponsible of the Tories (no surprise there), and was mostly Cameron being reckless.

Idk about another vote, because then there would be a precedent for another, and another, etc. Either way it seems to me like it was a way to create a huge diversion from the fact that the Tories are tearing the country to pieces and making big US dollars from the whole thing, whilst retaining political power.

Anyway, obvs this isn't a Brexit thread, I was just interested to see what your general opinion was on the whole thing and it seems pretty consistent!

Originally posted by Scribble
Yeah, fair enough. I mostly agree, I think the idea for the vote in the first place was highly irresponsible of the Tories (no surprise there), and was mostly Cameron being reckless.

Idk about another vote, because then there would be a precedent for another, and another, etc. Either way it seems to me like it was a way to create a huge diversion from the fact that the Tories are tearing the country to pieces and making big US dollars from the whole thing, whilst retaining political power.

Anyway, obvs this isn't a Brexit thread, I was just interested to see what your general opinion was on the whole thing and it seems pretty consistent!

Thing is, it's questionable if Brexit was what they were voting for even, certainly as it is now. Yes, agreed it should never have happened, irresponsible is an understatement.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Thing is, it's questionable if Brexit was what they were voting for even, certainly as it is now. Yes, agreed it should never have happened, irresponsible is an understatement.
I disagree. I think it was a long time coming.

Originally posted by Blakemore
I disagree. I think it was a long time coming.
and that's democracy, the right to disagree and vote for something. We all have friends and family who have contrary opinions on Brexit. It's something we get over in Britain in the British way of moving on and I think we have. I believe one day we will rejoin Europe. Only time will tell. Although they may choose not to have us back.

We’re still in Europe!

Democracy is inherently authoritarian.

Oh my lord, this is going to be another ‘democracy is mob rule’ argument isn’t it?

But to whirly, I think Britain will still have good relations with Europe and other nations.

Originally posted by ilikecomics
Democracy is inherently authoritarian.

Which is why a true republic -- which is what the United States actually is -- is infinitely superior.

Republic >>>>>> democracy..

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Which is why a true republic -- which is what the United States actually is -- is infinitely superior.

Republic >>>>>> democracy..

yes, just ask palpatine.

Democracy is a horrible system, always has been, always will be.

I always find it funny when a conservative talks about this being a Republic like it matters to the discussions at hand lol.

Like no one in the modern age is talking about Democracy in the traditional Greek everyone votes on every topic lol.

America is both a Democracy and a Republic, things do not have to be exclusive.

Originally posted by Robtard
America is both a Democracy and a Republic, things do not have to be exclusive.
What America is a mixed system. No way!!!!