Do you support a living wage?

Started by Patient_Leech2 pages

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Amazon is the richest company and the planet and doesn't care one iota about retaining staff because fear of destitution will always drive people to accept terrible working conditions. (Think no toilet breaks and living in tents in woodland outside the Amazon depot in the middle of winter because the cost of travelling to work would wipe out the paltry amount you earn. This actually happened at my local main distribution hub right next to my brother's house)

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/amazon-workers-sleep-tents-dunfermline-fife-scotland-a7467657.html

Nomadland, anyone?

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
A living wage would result in a more cohesive society. People would be happy outside of their work and so more productive inside it. Ultimately profits would go up. A win/win.

Universal basic income would be even better. Employers would have to find ways of making jobs attractive to employees. It would swing the balance of power of employment contracts to the worker as people would no longer be forced to accept poor pay and conditions for fear of becoming destitute.

UBI is also effectively inevitable within a generation or two. AI and automation will replace increasingly huge numbers of jobs. At some point we will have to either accept the current capitalist dogma that the owners and boards of huge companies who replace more and more of their workforce with automation solutions and can just dump the human workforce and keep the money, massively increasing the wealth gap to a dystopian disparity (think Elysium with Matt Damon) or we tax these companies in order to ensure a dwindling human workforce means billions of people becoming destitute.

a more cohesive society is also an argument for a 4 day week, rather than a 5 day. Tbh, I know people who work 6 days and they don’t look happy.

I’d say 4 and a half days, with extra pay for those who work extra.

Originally posted by Blakemore
a more cohesive society is also an argument for a 4 day week, rather than a 5 day. Tbh, I know people who work 6 days and they don’t look happy.

I’d say 4 and a half days, with extra pay for those who work extra.

yeah Shure we start there

Where does it end? Full on hedonism? 🤔

I could slap together a mathematical model for a more fuller plate dependent upon the groups that be eating at it

And what like how they are after or what they are after, we each have a few slight deviations in our upbringing but the end result stays pretty static and 9 to 5 ain't it m8s

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Nomadland, anyone?
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Yes obviously.

Although might have to give some incentives for smaller businesses.

But I don't want to hear about market forces deciding when these corporations get so many bail outs and subsidies from the tax payer.

Minimum wage should grow with the economy (or be in line with growing GDP).

Alexander like Prometheus was an educator, and like me Achilles a King who fought his own battles.

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Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yes obviously.

Although might have to give some incentives for smaller businesses.

But I don't want to hear about market forces deciding when these corporations get so many bail outs and subsidies from the tax payer.

Minimum wage should grow with the economy (or be in line with growing GDP).

Word salad, made up terms for obsolete cubical jockies to provide weapons to home evictors pretending to be the government

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Amazon is the richest company and the planet and doesn't care one iota about retaining staff because fear of destitution will always drive people to accept terrible working conditions. (Think no toilet breaks and living in tents in woodland outside the Amazon depot in the middle of winter because the cost of travelling to work would wipe out the paltry amount you earn. This actually happened at my local main distribution hub right next to my brother's house)

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/amazon-workers-sleep-tents-dunfermline-fife-scotland-a7467657.html

Jesus, this shouldn't be legal.

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Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Amazon is the richest company and the planet and doesn't care one iota about retaining staff because fear of destitution will always drive people to accept terrible working conditions. (Think no toilet breaks and living in tents in woodland outside the Amazon depot in the middle of winter because the cost of travelling to work would wipe out the paltry amount you earn. This actually happened at my local main distribution hub right next to my brother's house)

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/amazon-workers-sleep-tents-dunfermline-fife-scotland-a7467657.html

Amazon is only this powerful because the government protects it. Remove all the tax incentives the government bestows Amazon. It will grumble.

On the topic of the tech giants congress recently did look to rein them in with some anti trust legislation:

Called the “Ending Platform Monopolies Act,” sponsored by Rep. Pramila Jayapal (D-Wash) and the “The American Innovation and Choice Online Act” sponsored by House Judiciary subcommittee on antitrust Rep. David Cicilline (D-RI), the reforms could potentially break up the tech behemoths by cracking down on conflicts of interest between their different business lines.

We'll see though.

Originally posted by snowdragon
On the topic of the tech giants congress recently did look to rein them in with some anti trust legislation:

We'll see though.

Believe it when I see it.

Both D/R are own by the corporations and elites.

Originally posted by SquallX
Amazon is only this powerful because the government protects it. Remove all the tax incentives the government bestows Amazon. It will grumble.

Amazon wouldn't crumble (I assume you meant that) at this point, Bezos would just be billions poorer, yet still one of the wealthiest people on the planet and he'd likely just make it up by finding new ways to squeeze a few extra dollars out of his massive workforce to make it up.

Too big to fall.