Originally posted by ShadowFyreWell congratulations, you just proved that Thor experience more force than a grenade. Guess what, I can push someone with more force than a bullet. Does it mean anything here?
Grenades don't shoot people away at a hundred mph. In fact, I have never seen a grenade throw anyone more than a few feet at best. And yes, that's real life grenades that I have real life experience with.
Originally posted by Silent MasterIm not making the claim about Thor. Its up to you guys if you want his feat to stand for something.
Incorrect, my request for the quote where he was stated to be using figurative language predates your question. In fact, if you look up a couple of post you'll realize that your question was in response to my request that you back up your claim.So, 1) are you going to back up your claim and 2) are you a mod?
Originally posted by h1a8
Im not making the claim about Thor. Its up to you guys if you want his feat to stand for something.
Again, your claim was that he was using figurative language. That is the claim I asked for proof of. Are you going to provide proof of your claim?
Edit: in case you missed it I will repost my request and please note that it came before you asked me a question
Originally posted by Silent Master
Quote where in the movie it was stated that Etri was using figurative language.
Originally posted by h1a8
The proof is that it makes no sense to be literal.
If you disagree, then please make some sense out of it. What force (and how much) do stars push things away from them with? Can you describe the force and quantify it to a reasonable amount?
That is your opinion, not proof.
Post a quote from the movie that says he was using figurative language.
Originally posted by h1a8
Because stars don't naturally push with a force.
Lol. Yes they do. By 2 forces. Gas pressure and radiation pressure. Even our sun which has a relatively weak radiation pressure can put enough force on a spacecraft travelling between Earth and Mars that if it were not calculated in and compensated for it would end up thousands of miles from its intended position.
Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Lol. Yes they do. By 2 forces. Gas pressure and radiation pressure. Even our sun which has a relatively weak radiation pressure can put enough force on a spacecraft travelling between Earth and Mars that if it were not calculated in and compensated for it would end up thousands of miles from its intended position.
Wrong! Gas pressure is inside the sun. We are talking about NET force on an object a distance away.
And radiation pressure that is less than 0.01 N is not relevant here (unless you are arguing semantics). If Thor was subjected to radiation pressure of 0.01N then it is a non feat. They win the argument of semantics but lose the argument of the feat.
Originally posted by Darth ThorCorrect!
OMG is he actually arguing Star have no pushing force facepalm
Originally posted by h1a8
I claim it makes no sense literally. Prove it does.
We dont neee to prove head canon. Neither does fiction always have to make perfect scientific sense.
Not that you make any scientific sense anyway. Case in point:
Originally posted by h1a8
Correct!
Unless you can explain what pushing forces stars have that make Thor's feat a great feat other than resisting being burned.
Originally posted by Darth ThorWhen a person says something that makes no sense literally they are either speaking figuratively or they are deluded. I don't think Etri was deluded.
We dont neee to prove head canon. Neither does fiction always have to make perfect scientific sense.Not that you make any scientific sense anyway. Case in point:
Originally posted by h1a8
Wrong! Gas pressure is inside the sun. We are talking about NET force on an object a distance away.And radiation pressure that is less than 0.01 N is not relevant here (unless you are arguing semantics). If Thor was subjected to radiation pressure of 0.01N then it is a non feat. They win the argument of semantics but lose the argument of the feat.
Correct!
Unless you can explain what pushing forces stars have that make Thor's feat a great feat other than resisting being burned.
Gas pressure pushing out is what stops a star from collapsing under its own gravity.
It's quite clear the statement in the movie regarding taking the full force of the star that the forces generated from that star are not being projected in all directions and are entirely concentrated in the beam that hits Thor.
Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Gas pressure pushing out is what stops a star from collapsing under its own gravity.It's quite clear the statement in the movie regarding taking the full force of the star that the forces generated from that star are not being projected in all directions and are entirely concentrated in the beam that hits Thor.
It's quite clear? Really? Are you stupid or a troll? So you make up some BS and expect it to fly as a game of trolling? Thor was pushed through space with a small force as shown by his acceleration. If that push represented the full force of the star then it was pretty weak. Even the speed of the beam was slow. But we both know Etri meant full temperature.
So it's clear you are a troll. No need to debate with you. If you want to play games fine. I'm not going to address the games.
Originally posted by h1a8
I did, multiple times. I stated it makes no sense literally. That's the proof.
If a statement doesn't make sense literally then it is figurative language or the talker is deluded. Etri wasn't deluded.
Pointing out that it makes literally no sense to you is not proving anything other than your own deficiencies.
As evidenced by everyone else's posts in this thread, his comments make perfect sense for the rest of us.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Pointing out that it makes literally no sense to you is not proving anything other than your own deficiencies.As evidenced by everyone else's posts in this thread, his comments make perfect sense for the rest of us.
Lies. If it makes sense to you then please quantify the amount of force to a reasonable estimate. Or just prove that it was more than 1000 tons of force. That would suffice.