Why So Many Mainstream Movies are a Mess

A video that the YouTube algorithm recommended to me. This guy has some good points....

YouTube video

His main point being that in the good 'ol days movies just had one box to check off: 'fun'. But now there are so many other boxes that studio interference is requiring and it's making movies a mess. Too many cooks in the kitchen, I guess is the cliche. He's absolutely right about the Justice League situation. That's the most glaring example. He also mentions the New Star Wars.

I like that guy. He reminds me of someone...

^ I've actually never even heard of him. But I'll probably look him up a bit more...

Red Letter Media talks a lot about how refreshing it is when, for better or for worse, a studio just lets a person make a movie, present their vision without half a dozen other people sticking their fingers in the pie.

Alien 3 is a famous example of studio interference butchering the final product. It was apparently so frustrating that David Fincher wanted nothing to do with it anymore.

And these days it's also common for scripts to go through 3 or 4 or 5 or more re-writes with different writers and then by the end of it it's a jumbled mess. I know that happened with Alien Covenant and it shows.

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
^ I've actually never even heard of him. But I'll probably look him up a bit more...

Red Letter Media talks a lot about how refreshing it is when, for better or for worse, a studio just lets a person make a movie, present their vision without half a dozen other people sticking their fingers in the pie.

Alien 3 is a famous example of studio interference butchering the final product. It was apparently so frustrating that David Fincher wanted nothing to do with it anymore.

And these days it's also common for scripts to go through 3 or 4 or 5 or more re-writes with different writers and then by the end of it it's a jumbled mess. I know that happened with Alien Covenant and it shows.

Yeah I agree with that. In many cases it's very apparent when studios butt in to the detriment of the final product. Guardians of the Galaxy 2 seemed to suffer from it. WW84 also. They very much seem to do it when a first movie has been unexpectedly successful. It looks very much like it happened with New Mutants because the first two acts of that film were amazing and was ruined by the third act. 10 Cloverfield Lane was fantastic up until the utterly retarded, tacked-on ending to try and associate it with a previously successful movie.

On the flip side it can work in a movie's favour but very rarely. Tony Kaye famously hates the final version of American History X but I don't think his original vision of it would've been as good as the theatrical release. Would still be interesting to see it though.

"Your job is to entertain me, not lecture me."

"Just write a great character - not try to shoehorn in a type."

"The marketing for these movies are so good, that the products don't live up to the marketing."

👆 He's spitting too many facts.

Funny Leech, I watched this over the weekend, the 2 or 3 interviews I saw with Chris are great.

every last one of them

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
"Just write a great character - not try to shoehorn in a type."

It’s not just the creators though. It’s the fans. A lot of fans seem to come into a project w. these prerequisites on liking anything.

As a non movie example, when the new Wonder Girl character (Yara Flor) was announced, I saw threads popping up on how awesome the character was, sight unseen, simply because she was ethnic.

When a TV series was announced, again sight unseen, the threads were full of posts on how much this character that none of them had read anything about was so incredibly deserving of it, and how awful blonde blue eyed Cassie Sandsmark was as Wonder Girls and how she needed to change her name now that a real Wonder Girl had been created.

Cringe. Just cringe. 😆