The solution to higher wages is unions.
I think we can all agree that wages are too low.
What we disagree on is how we can raise them.
Do we have the Government mandate a higher wage?
Or do we let workers bargain with employers?
I support the latter.
Originally posted by KlawActually the better solution would be providence not currency, based on specific needs and past output, for someone who has just given up
I think we can all agree that wages are too low.What we disagree on is how we can raise them.
Do we have the Government mandate a higher wage?
Or do we let workers bargain with employers?
I support the latter.
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Re: The solution to higher wages is unions.
Originally posted by Klaw
I think we can all agree that wages are too low.What we disagree on is how we can raise them.
Do we have the Government mandate a higher wage?
Or do we let workers bargain with employers?
I support the latter.
Unions are not inherently bad and they've done good in several sectors with protecting workers rights.
The problem is unions are fairly easily corrupted, which end up fleecing the very employees they're supposed to protect. Especially when Rightist are in charge.
Re: Re: The solution to higher wages is unions.
Originally posted by Robtard
Unions are not inherently bad and they've done good in several sectors with protecting workers rights.The problem is unions are fairly easily corrupted, which end up fleecing the very employees they're supposed to protect. Especially when Rightist are in charge.
I'm gonna say that even with righties in charge we need more unions.
Originally posted by Robtarda good example would be the coal mines in Britain when they got closed because the unions were too powerful. Too many protests and mutiny caused businesses to lose money and they had to be shut down. 😔
Unions are not inherently bad and they've done good in several sectors with protecting workers rights.The problem is unions are fairly easily corrupted, which end up fleecing the very employees they're supposed to protect. Especially when Rightist are in charge.
Originally posted by BlakemoreThat's one perspective on the Unions. My opinion on that time is very different.We'd had Margaret Thatcher in on a ticket of privatising the Country for over a term, we’d had anti-Thatcher riots, we’d got the National Front and the right wing making serious advances, we had manufacturing being destroyed communities broken down and being gay was considered evil. Section 28 and the poll tax were still to come. For many at the time the miners were fighting the good fight against the dystopian future of capitalism run amok we have now. For people like me who were young adults we realised the US were suffering from a president with dementia, whilst in the UK we had pure evil governing led by the wicked witch herself.
a good example would be the coal mines in Britain when they got closed because the unions were too powerful. Too many protests and mutiny caused businesses to lose money and they had to be shut down. 😔
Originally posted by Newjak
Unions are one part of the equation.You also need to make sure that Unions can bargain and are given enough power to be useful.
I say it's also time for a net worth or income maximum as well.
I agree that workers need to be empowered to have bargaining power.
Disagree on the cap for net worth and income.
Originally posted by Klawthey wanted more money. The thing is, most of their wages were actually in excessive coal they mined. It kinda makes sense that excess can be kept, but I think they just wanted money. My grandad used to be a miner and lived in a caravan and would fish for crabs on the coast until he felt homesick and later became a mechanic.
What were they protesting?
Originally posted by Blakemorehe did it because of the protests, he actually did live in a house and the caravan was like a vacation lol.
they wanted more money. The thing is, most of their wages were actually in excessive coal they mined. It kinda makes sense that excess can be kept, but I think they just wanted money. My grandad used to be a miner and lived in a caravan and would fish for crabs on the coast until he felt homesick and later became a mechanic.