Doomsday vs. MCU White Vision

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Huh? He literally overpowered and defeated Thanos in IW by firing at him and throwing StormBreaker from a distance.

Theres literally no logic in fighting someone whose his physical superior up close. Even less so for Iron Man.

Lets not forget Steve almost got the better of Thanos by firing repeated lightning shots at him.

If they had a scene where Thanos leaped up and grabbed Thor when he was in the air, then thatd make much more sense out of the rest of the fight. As it is though makes them look kinda silly.

And he has kept his distance before in fights. Its rare, but this was a fight to save the Universe. There was no room for CIS.

The Russos have stated the reason Thor was successful in Infinity War was because he caught Thanos off guard. Plus, Thanos didn't have his sword there either, which he's shown to be very proficient at blocking incoming attacks with.

And Steve really didn't. He managed to knock Thanos on his ass briefly but got wrecked the moment Thanos got more serious. Hell, Thanos was almost immediately back on his feet after the second lightning strike.

And you could say the same about a bunch of other characters as well. Dr Strange could have shunted his ass into the Mirror Dimension, as Thanos had no Stones to counter this time around. Wanda could have used him as a big, purple meat shield when Thanos called down the bombardment or TK skewered him with his own sword after disarming him. I'm pretty sure I could think of more examples if I could be bothered. In the context of what was, as a whole, a really stupid final battle, Thor didn't act any dumber than any of the other heroes.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
1)The Russos have stated the reason Thor was successful in Infinity War was because he caught Thanos off guard. Plus, Thanos didn't have his sword there either, which he's shown to be very proficient at blocking incoming attacks with.

2)And Steve really didn't. He managed to knock Thanos on his ass briefly but got wrecked the moment Thanos got more serious. Hell, Thanos was almost immediately back on his feet after the second lightning strike.

3)And you could say the same about a bunch of other characters as well. Dr Strange could have shunted his ass into the Mirror Dimension, as Thanos had no Stones to counter this time around. Wanda could have used him as a big, purple meat shield when Thanos called down the bombardment or TK skewered him with his own sword after disarming him. I'm pretty sure I could think of more examples if I could be bothered. In the context of what was, as a whole, a really stupid final battle, Thor didn't act any dumber than any of the other heroes.

1)Yeah because that was a Thanos with the full IG.

2) Cap cant fly and keep his distance though.

3) Not sure what youre getting at with this one. My argument isnt on which Avengers can beat Thanos. Its how silly Thor and IM seem not simply keeping their distance when attacking a being whose clearly more physically powerful and a superior combatant to both. But who has no long ranged attacks (that weve seen).

I don't see how Vision can win this.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
1)Yeah because that was a Thanos with the full IG.

2) Cap cant fly and keep his distance though.

3) Not sure what youre getting at with this one. My argument isnt on which Avengers can beat Thanos. Its how silly Thor and IM seem not simply keeping their distance when attacking a being whose clearly more physically powerful and a superior combatant to both. But who has no long ranged attacks (that weve seen).

Yes, Thor took advantage of Thanos being distracted by the IG to blindside him with a lightning bolt and then throwing Stormbreaker at him, a weapon Thanos had no knowledge of at the time (which is, as the Russos explained, why he didn't provide a better counter to it; he didn't know how powerful the weapon was and barely had time to process what was happening). The only person who managed to attack him when he was in a similar vulnerable state in EG was Captain Marvel.

That's not really relevant to how effective the lightning attacks themselves were, which was the initial point.

My point is that Thor's strategy of trying to decapitate Thanos (which he knew would be fatal if successful) wasn't a bad one in the context of a final battle that was terribly written and had a bunch of heroes under-utilising their powers (like Wanda, Dr Strange etc.). And Iron Man often under-uses his ranged attacks, so that's nothing new. Take IM3, for example. Even after Killian had literally torn multiple suits apart like wet tissue paper, Tony still tried fighting him H2H. Though it is worth noting that his only effective attack against Thanos in IW was, in fact, a melee attack.

Anyway, I feel like I'm kind of derailing things here. None of the characters we're discussing are even in this match.