Sundipped Superman vs Living Tribunal.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
LT easily uses cosmic awareness and depowers Superman immediately. Non fight

Originally posted by lawest9
Superman was TOO fast for that.

Based on what?

Originally posted by carver9
Based on what?

Originally posted by lawest9
Based on what you saw in JL#25.

What scene are you using in that comic to suggest him moving so fast LT can't see him or react?

Where he's faster than physics, faster than imagination.

Speed feats for LT, please. Combat speed feats.

Scans.

Originally posted by carver9
What scene are you using in that comic to suggest him moving so fast LT can't see him or react?

What kind of defense does/did Superman have against the LT's level of time, and reality manipulation while in this amped state?

Well when we see combat speed feats from the LT, then we can move on to his time and reality manip and how quickly he can use his abilities.

He snapped his fingers and returned everything back to the way that it was when he fought IG Adam Warlock. Speed is certainly not the end all be all, and if this is what you're attempting to argue, that would be your opinion.

Originally posted by Stoic
He snapped his fingers and returned everything back to the way that it was when he fought IG Adam Warlock. Speed is certainly not the end all be all, and if this is what you're attempting to argue, that would be your opinion.

So?

Snapping ones fingers isn't exactly fast, lmao, certainly not relative to the speeds being argued here. That's not an opinion, it's fact.

LT was hit with the IG. Besides narration, who else did the World Forger face in his short time on panel? You'd think that even in a weakened state that WF would've been able to solo Apex Lex right? I can only imagine how well the LT would've done if he were to switch places with the WF at that time.

So nothing on his speed and durability? Ok. I mean, that's all you had to say

If you payed attention, I did make mention of his ability to weather Adam Warlock's attacks while in possession of the Infinty Gauntlet.

If you paid attention, you said he snapped his fingers to do so.

So no snap, no durability. Speed kills.

WF has performed multiple multiversal+ feats, contains the energy of entire World Forge/Dark Multiverse, can casually shatter reality and create universe with every strike even in weakened state. He is a multiversal/multiversal+ being by all odds

Thus it is only logical to assume Superman was at the same ballpark when he punched and defeated him( I.E the version OP using here)

I mean nobody genuinely will ask how fast or durable or strike force of TOAA in the manner of Batman/Thor/GL etc

So the question basically is does LT have feat that can exceed WF( Creating Dark Multiverse, Hypertime, the main Multiverse and the duplication of it etc)? If it is yes, Then LT can tank it, It is no, Then LT shouldnt be doing any better than what WF did IMHO

Basically. I'm only asking for combat feats (lol) because Carvy kept asking for them for WF.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
WF has performed multiple multiversal+ feats, contains the energy of entire World Forge/Dark Multiverse, can casually shatter reality and create universe with every strike even in weakened state. He is a multiversal/multiversal+ being by all odds

Thus it is only logical to assume Superman was at the same ballpark when he punched and defeated him( I.E the version OP using here)

I mean nobody genuinely will ask how fast or durable or strike force of TOAA in the manner of Batman/Thor/GL etc

So the question basically is does LT have feat that can exceed WF( Creating Dark Multiverse, Hypertime, the main Multiverse and the duplication of it etc)? If it is yes, Then LT can tank it, It is no, Then LT shouldnt be doing any better than what WF did IMHO

You'd think that with all of the praise that your giving him that he would've been able to snap his fingers and erase Apex Lex though. Sort of leaves you scratching your head til you hit bone.

Weren't the Apex Predators specifically created by Perpetua to fight and kill her sons? That helps a LOT with one's head scratching, I feel, especially if one just read the comic.

Edit: sorry, she created the Apex Predators to fight and kill the Judges, the guys who imprisoned her. Pretty powerful stuff, if you stopped for a moment and thought about it.

Also Perpetua still operating around that time and WF was weakened in third dimension

Originally posted by carver9
Scans of Thor taking out Beyonders.

Sorry, I missed this.

Find it yourself.