Originally posted by Blakemore
There are a lot of female leaders in politics. Theresa May is another example. What is your point?
She achieved power on 1979. Feminism in the US was only about a decade or two old at that point (No idea about UK equivilents).
And my point is that:
1. She was a trailblazer. The women you mention come much later.
2. You don't like her. A lot of people didn't like her. And she wouldn't bend.
And isn't that really the whole point of feminism? That a woman doesn't need to impress you or anybody else, and can become what they want to become. You don't like it, they'll just walk around you, or on top of you if need be.
I think that's an admirable thing, personally.
Re: Margaret Thatcher embodies feminist ideals
Originally posted by cdtm
A woman who achieved real power, on her own terms, and stood firm even if the entire world called her a monster.You could hate the woman for her politics, but at least recognize she is a woman in a man's world who bowed to nobody.
She was cool.
Even if I didn't already like her before coming to this site, I would after learning how all the leftists here disliked her.
That's a good rule of thumb to follow: if leftists/socialists don't like someone, it probably means he or she is actually a good person. 😉
If they do like someone a lot, it probably actually means that person is NOT actually a good person. 😉
Obviously there would be some rare exceptions to this rule though.
Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Here she is with her good friend and genocidal dictator, Augusto Pinochet
That's kind of facetious.
I could post Obama or really any world leader with a monster. That's simply a reality of politics, and does not mean condoning a thing.
But you actually play into my point with your attempt to argue against her character.
Which was never my point to begin with. I never called her a good leader, or a good person.
Originally posted by cdtmback to my question, what is your point?
That's kind of facetious.I could post Obama or really any world leader with a monster. That's simply a reality of politics, and does not mean condoning a thing.
But you actually play into my point with your attempt to argue against her character.
Which was never my point to begin with. I never called her a good leader, or a good person.
Originally posted by Blakemore
She was a woman who got elected. Okay 👍 Anything to add?
A woman who got elected to one of the most powerful positions on the planet.
Don't confuse looking at what she symbolizes with romanticizing the person. All I'm saying is feminism argues that women, as a group, should not need anyone's permission to live or achieve.
And she certainly lived as she wanted to, and achieved greatness, in the face of mass disapproval.
That is the feminist ideal.
Originally posted by cdtm
That's kind of facetious.I could post Obama or really any world leader with a monster. That's simply a reality of politics, and does not mean condoning a thing.
But you actually play into my point with your attempt to argue against her character.
Which was never my point to begin with. I never called her a good leader, or a good person.
She was a good leader though.
Keep in mind though, any leader jaden actually would give his seal of approval for would be one that probably supports mass infantacide so.... yeah, I don't take his " she committed genocide!!" arguments seriously anymore than I take the arguments seriously from people in general who support abortion/baby murder but then try to lecture us about "if we can save just one life with gun control it is worth it!" or "if we can save just one life by forcing vaccines on people then it'
s worth it!!" bullshit.