Originally posted by Blakemore
covering a woman in a curtain is barbaric,
So it's for your secular dictatorship to decide that. And not the woman's choice?
Originally posted by Blakemore
and it does pray for death to those who leave.
I'm sure that's what it says on the hate websites you've visted.
Like I said if you want to compare Islamic evidences, I'm open to do that. But don't just throw stuff out there as if you know better than muslims about their own religion.
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/index.htm You can check here.
Originally posted by Blakemore
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/index.htm You can check here.
Wow what a strawman.
Given the sections to check are the right are things like "cruelty" and "intolerance" I will presume you did exactly what I thought you would which was to jump to a hate website.
You've not even been bothered to provide anything specifically to your accusation of Islam's stance on aspostacy, hence the strawman.
Like I said, if you actually want to debate the evidences, I am willing to do that (note: you will lose). But quit jumping to hate websites (showing no actual knowledge yourself) as if that's supposed to prove something.
Originally posted by Blakemore
Also “secular dictatorship “is a contradictory statement. laughing out loud
What you think there's never been a secular dictator ? Lmao
Got to say, last thing I expected was for anyone here to actually defend France on that. Very disappointed in your narrow mindedness on this matter, as you don't usually come across that way.
I allowed you to check yourself. Oh well.
Don't bother warning the disbelievers. Allah has made it impossible for them to believe so that he can torture them forever after they die. 2:6-7
Allah has sickened the hearts of disbelievers and increased their disease. He is a spiritual anti-doctor. 2:10
If you try to compose a surah that is better than those in the Quran, and then fail, Allah will burn you forever in the fire that he has prepared for disbelievers, whose fuel is men and stones. 2:24
Allah will shed human blood while angels praise him in heaven. (The angels question why Allah has to kill people; Allah says they'd understand if they knew everything like he does.) 2:30
They who disbelieve, and deny Our revelations, such are rightful Peoples of the Fire. They will abide therein." 2:39
There will come a day when Allah will refuse all prayers and help no one. 2:48
Allah brags about drowning the Egyptian army. 2:50
"Whosoever hath done evil and his sin surroundeth him; such are rightful owners of the Fire." 2:81
Christians and Jews (who believe in only part of the Scripture), will suffer in this life and go to hell in the next. 2:85
"They have incurred anger upon anger. For disbelievers is a shameful doom." 90
"For disbelievers is a painful doom." 2:104
Originally posted by Blakemore
I allowed you to check yourself. Oh well.
Don't patronise me. I know the Quran approximately a million times better than you do. Simply because I actually read it. Instead getting cherry picked verses from a hate website, which would be the IGNORANT thing to do.
Originally posted by Blakemore
Don't bother warning the disbelievers. Allah has made it impossible for them to believe so that he can torture them forever after they die. 2:6-7
Literally just with this they've taken MASSIVE Liberties with the translation. Do you actually check from a Quran?
Originally posted by Blakemore
Allah has sickened the hearts of disbelievers and increased their disease. He is a spiritual anti-doctor. 2:10
If you try to compose a surah that is better than those in the Quran, and then fail, Allah will burn you forever in the fire that he has prepared for disbelievers, whose fuel is men and stones. 2:24
Allah will shed human blood while angels praise him in heaven. (The angels question why Allah has to kill people; Allah says they'd understand if they knew everything like he does.) 2:30
They who disbelieve, and deny Our revelations, such are rightful Peoples of the Fire. They will abide therein." 2:39
There will come a day when Allah will refuse all prayers and help no one. 2:48
Allah brags about drowning the Egyptian army. 2:50
"Whosoever hath done evil and his sin surroundeth him; such are rightful owners of the Fire." 2:81
Christians and Jews (who believe in only part of the Scripture), will suffer in this life and go to hell in the next. 2:85
"They have incurred anger upon anger. For disbelievers is a shameful doom." 90
"For disbelievers is a painful doom." 2:104
Yep massive translation liberties with ALL of Those.
Also this is what I mean by Strawman. I mean what exactly are any of these supposed to prove? That disbelievers (the word Kaffir actually translates better as Ignorance btw) go to Hell?
You mean just like in Christianity?
What's the argument here? None of this has anything to do with Apostacy or France being better at governing without Faith involved.
Re: Would society be better off without Religion?
Originally posted by Klaw
I would say yes.Think about all the Scientific discoveries we could have made without Religion getting in the way.
Then you are an idiot and so is everyone else who agrees with you. Fortunately, you all don't get to decide that, thank God.
Atheists have no inherent basis for morality. Morality to them is subjective. They have more blood on their hands than all religions combined do and that is an irrefutable fact. They also lead the world by far in abortions, in suicides, in drug use, and in school shootings.
Atheism is such an inferior, shitty ass ideology. Society would be much, MUCH better off without it believe me. 👆 👆