Are geeks/nerds more misoginist and racist?

To me a comic fan since 1972, I see ountless examples of fans working to protect comics’ all-white-men legacy, from Trekkies threatening to boycott a new Star Trek series because the protagonist is a Black woman and the captain is an Asian woman, to people pushing back against Tessa Thompson being cast as Valkyrie, or Idris Elba as Heimdall. I also see anger at women, the attacks on female characters highlight the dark side of "Star Wars" fandom recently reared its head when Kelly Marie Tran, the actress who plays Rose Tico in "Star Wars: The Last Jedi," was run off Instagram by misogynistic and racist messages from fans who didn't like her character in the movie. But the episode was not an uncommon one.

The beautiful Daisy Ridley, who starred as the heroine Rey, quit social media for a while for the same reasons. I do not know if she has returned. They are far from the first women to be hounded by bitter, mostly male fans who didn't approve of their entry into a fictional pop-culture world that some fans feel a misguided sense of ownership of.

Such toxic abuse has long been a staple of darker social-media realms, fan-group message boards and internet comments pages. Obsession -- loving or poisonous -- has helped fuel the most dedicated fan bases, whose fervor is craved and cultivated by billion-dollar brands. But the scorn heaped on Tran -- a 29-year-old newcomer who has been overjoyed at her induction into "Star Wars" — sparked a backlash of its own.

I see all these ideas as only being one step away from the Incels, White Supremacists and People who stormed the US Capitol on Jan 6.

https://www.engadget.com/hitting-the-books-culture-warlords-talia-lavin-hachette-books-163023083.html

durwank

I’m not sure Whirly. Some are, but that applies to all things.

Originally posted by Blakemore
I’m not sure Whirly. Some are, but that applies to all things.

Any thread or article that has a stupid question in the title; the answer is always "No."

Originally posted by Klaw
Any thread or article that has a stupid question in the title; the answer is always "No."

I’m with klaw on this one.

More misogynistic and racist than what....less nerdy/geeky ppl?

I'm going to say nope.

Honestly this is a good thread Whirly.

I think sometimes people get so wrapped in the idea that because something is nerdy it automatically makes them more open.

The truth is there are a lot of nerds out there that are terrible people.

You might even be able to argue they can be worse than the general populace because they never learned what true social bounds are and willingly step over them.

No is it more than the general populace in terms of numbers? I don't know.

I just know people need to realize nerd culture does except some bad ideas. Like just because you're a fan of something it gives you the right to harass people that work or are a part of that something.

Gatekeeping is a terrible thing.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
To me a comic fan since 1972, I see ountless examples of fans working to protect comics’ all-white-men legacy, from Trekkies threatening to boycott a new Star Trek series because the protagonist is a Black woman and the captain is an Asian woman, to people pushing back against Tessa Thompson being cast as Valkyrie, or Idris Elba as Heimdall. I also see anger at women, the attacks on female characters highlight the dark side of "Star Wars" fandom recently reared its head when Kelly Marie Tran, the actress who plays Rose Tico in "Star Wars: The Last Jedi," was run off Instagram by misogynistic and racist messages from fans who didn't like her character in the movie. But the episode was not an uncommon one.

The beautiful Daisy Ridley, who starred as the heroine Rey, quit social media for a while for the same reasons. I do not know if she has returned. They are far from the first women to be hounded by bitter, mostly male fans who didn't approve of their entry into a fictional pop-culture world that some fans feel a misguided sense of ownership of.

Such toxic abuse has long been a staple of darker social-media realms, fan-group message boards and internet comments pages. Obsession -- loving or poisonous -- has helped fuel the most dedicated fan bases, whose fervor is craved and cultivated by billion-dollar brands. But the scorn heaped on Tran -- a 29-year-old newcomer who has been overjoyed at her induction into "Star Wars" — sparked a backlash of its own.

I see all these ideas as only being one step away from the Incels, White Supremacists and People who stormed the US Capitol on Jan 6.

https://www.engadget.com/hitting-the-books-culture-warlords-talia-lavin-hachette-books-163023083.html

Lets assume this was true. What of it?

If intolerant nerds are a minority, than comics will thrive without them.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
To me a comic fan since 1972, I see ountless examples of fans working to protect comics’ all-white-men legacy, from Trekkies threatening to boycott a new Star Trek series because the protagonist is a Black woman and the captain is an Asian woman, to people pushing back against Tessa Thompson being cast as Valkyrie, or Idris Elba as Heimdall. I also see anger at women, the attacks on female characters highlight the dark side of "Star Wars" fandom recently reared its head when Kelly Marie Tran, the actress who plays Rose Tico in "Star Wars: The Last Jedi," was run off Instagram by misogynistic and racist messages from fans who didn't like her character in the movie. But the episode was not an uncommon one.

The beautiful Daisy Ridley, who starred as the heroine Rey, quit social media for a while for the same reasons. I do not know if she has returned. They are far from the first women to be hounded by bitter, mostly male fans who didn't approve of their entry into a fictional pop-culture world that some fans feel a misguided sense of ownership of.

Such toxic abuse has long been a staple of darker social-media realms, fan-group message boards and internet comments pages. Obsession -- loving or poisonous -- has helped fuel the most dedicated fan bases, whose fervor is craved and cultivated by billion-dollar brands. But the scorn heaped on Tran -- a 29-year-old newcomer who has been overjoyed at her induction into "Star Wars" — sparked a backlash of its own.

I see all these ideas as only being one step away from the Incels, White Supremacists and People who stormed the US Capitol on Jan 6.

https://www.engadget.com/hitting-the-books-culture-warlords-talia-lavin-hachette-books-163023083.html

durwank

Originally posted by Newjak
Honestly this is a good thread Whirly.

I think sometimes people get so wrapped in the idea that because something is nerdy it automatically makes them more open.

The truth is there are a lot of nerds out there that are terrible people.

You might even be able to argue they can be worse than the general populace because they never learned what true social bounds are and willingly step over them.

No is it more than the general populace in terms of numbers? I don't know.

I just know people need to realize nerd culture does except some bad ideas. Like just because you're a fan of something it gives you the right to harass people that work or are a part of that something.

Gatekeeping is a terrible thing.

Honestly Star Wars needed a female lead but Rey was just an uninteresting and overpowered character. The creators of those films just didnt get Star Wars IMO.

With Star Trek I really liked Discovery Season 1. But I think Star Trek always has been pretty inclusive. I mean at the peak of the Next Gen era we had Sisko and Janeway as Leads and Captains (although I didnt much like the latter).

When I felt the whole misogyny coming from nerds though was over Captain Marvel and the Ghostbusters reboot. And recently the new MOTU. And the reason I felt it was because the hate was so strong BEFORE those films/shows were even released.

So im not going to deny it exists. Its clearly there. And its those misogynistic nerd fans that build up channels like Geeks and Gamers.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Honestly Star Wars needed a female lead but Rey was just an uninteresting and overpowered character. The creators of those films just didnt get Star Wars IMO.

With Star Trek I really liked Discovery Season 1. But I think Star Trek always has been pretty inclusive. I mean at the peak of the Next Gen era we had Sisko and Janeway as Leads and Captains (although I didnt much like the latter).

When I felt the whole misogyny coming from nerds though was over Captain Marvel and the Ghostbusters reboot. And recently the new MOTU. And the reason I felt it was because the hate was so strong BEFORE those films/shows were even released.

So im not going to deny it exists. Its clearly there. And its those misogynistic nerd fans that build up channels like Geeks and Gamers.

No. /thread

Originally posted by Stigma
No. /thread

Someone with a working brain. 👆

Originally posted by Stigma
No. /thread

When you use the smallest percent of the population as an excuse to further your ideas problems ensue, and it's not nerds and geeks.

Originally posted by snowdragon
When you use the smallest percent of the population as an excuse to further your ideas problems ensue, and it's not nerds and geeks.

Double post.