Originally posted by Eon Blue
Blakemore is barely coherent, as we speak. The radical leftists on here scarcely accept him. He’s an ostracized orphan with no home, what a poor and pitiful creature. It makes me truly sad.Most of the phony left on here “make do” with the pathetic lot they have to work with. It’s quite cute.
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Originally posted by Eon Blue
Blakemore is barely coherent, as we speak. The radical leftists on here scarcely accept him. He’s an ostracized orphan with no home, what a poor and pitiful creature. It makes me truly sad.Most of the phony left on here “make do” with the pathetic lot they have to work with. It’s quite cute.
What on Earth are you rambling on about?
Originally posted by Eon Blue
How are things made?
I'll assume you meant the universe, due to what was being discussed beforehand.
Originally posted by StyleTime
No one knows if the universe had a beginning or not. It hasn't been proven either way, yet.That's what is cool about science -- it's okay to say you don't know.
We don't know what happened before the Big Bang. The Big Bang is simply stating what happened to the "stuff" that was there. It's possible that "stuff" wasn't always there, and it's possible it was always there. We don't know yet.
The important thing, is to wait for more evidence before drawing conclusions, which Star doesn't seem to understand.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
^ To be fair though we only have our own life times to come to our own conclusions. Hence nothing wrong with using the info we have to come to our own beliefs about how the Universe came about, or Choose to have Faith.
How I see it.
I'm not about to try and argue why faith is "right", because what people believe is personal. Engaging in "prove you're not wrong" is pretty much asking for trouble.
I'll also say atheists love to target low hanging fruit, for the most part. Arguing on one hand against Islamaphobia while attacking Christians is pure hypocrisy, if the same person argues from both fronts on different days.
If they attack all religions equally, I would have more respect for that stance, but I still wouldn't engage them, because again is useless.
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Nah, it's a waste of time debating science with someone who denies actual laws of science when he believes in the big bang, abiogenesis, and darwinian macroevolution nonsense.
Abiogenesis isn't a belief. It's an area of study with hypotheses that are still being tested. So far, experiments have shown that simple organic matter can arise from natural, "random" chemical processes though. The Miller-Urey experiments are the classic example, as I've told you before, and modern experiments continue to show evidence too. Miller-Urey produced organic molecules, including ones found in our genetic code, from chemical processes similar to ones present during Earth's formative years. You needed an energy source, of course, but stuff like lightning or radiation can account for that.
No one said it's a fact, but "Primordial Soup" Hypothesis currently has more evidence supporting it than God. It has more evidence than even Panspermia Hypothesis as far as I know.
Why wouldn't we continue to investigate the things producing evidence? That is science's job.
Originally posted by Newjak
I actually do have a problem with people ignoring the hard science of our reality. The societal BS of agree to disagree as long as something is labeled a 'belief' is part of the reason the U.S. has been hit so hard by Covid.I don't have a problem with people believing in their faith as long as they aren't hurting people or ignoring blatant reality for it.
We need people to be better educated.
I feel ya, believe me. But when it comes to religion, I don't care what people believe, as long as it's not hurting someone else. eg Believe in talking snakes and magical gardens all you like, the problem is when people use that belief to deny equal rights to people, eg like same-sex marriages.
The denying and downplaying over covid is another animal, as that had real world implications and hurt to killed people.
Originally posted by RobtardAgree 100%
I feel ya, believe me. But when it comes to religion, I don't care what people believe, as long as it's not hurting someone else. eg Believe in talking snakes and magical gardens all you like, the problem is when people use that belief to deny equal rights to people, eg like same-sex marriages.The denying and downplaying over covid is another animal, as that had real world implications and hurt to killed people.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
^ To be fair though we only have our own life times to come to our own conclusions. Hence nothing wrong with using the info we have to come to our own beliefs about how the Universe came about, or Choose to have Faith.
I just don't want people calling it science. Science has very specific rules, and it's not allowed to make conclusions about things it can't support.
I know you understand this, but Star is really having trouble with this idea.
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Give him time to google what some atheist website says to come up with some bullshit answer before he replies lol.He's gotta check what so-called "experts" say about that first.
I could recommend Sean Carroll, Lawrence Krauss, or some other cosmologist, and he'd accuse then of being "establishment" scientists or something.
Originally posted by cdtm
Arguing on one hand against Islamaphobia while attacking Christians is pure hypocrisy, if the same person argues from both fronts on different days.If they attack all religions equally, I would have more respect for that stance, but I still wouldn't engage them, because again is useless.
I think their point usually is all Religions are nonesense and no good for society but not to spread hatred.
Which I agree with. Argue against Hijab or for abortion, but no need to spread hate towards a group or indirectly via their faith.
But Ive noticed Americans tend not to argue policy so much. Its kind of their thing to just throw a label out instead.
Interestingly though yes I see more Islamaphobia from Christians than from Atheists. But I also dont see atheists attack Jesus the way Islamaphobes attack Muhammad.