Originally posted by Darth Thor
You think Harris could beat Trump?
Yes. Trump is soiled goods now. He was able to win in 2016 as the "unknown" and "outsider", but after four very disastrous years, he's now a known and lost when he had every advantage as the incumbent in 2020. He lost the popular vote both elections as well.
Trump is only the 11th POTUS to lose his reelection bid. The pool of one-term-losers is small.
I don't think Trump will be running again in 2028 though. There's a chance he won't run in 2024 as is.
Originally posted by Robtard
Trump is soiled goods now. He was able to win in 2016 as the "unknown" and "outsider", but after four very disastrous years, he's now a known and lost when he had every advantage as the incumbent in 2020.
Its just that even in 2020 he still got a hell of a lot of votes. Harris would have to beat those numbers. And her popularity seems to be dwindling as she gives the impression shes in this mostly for herself (not that Trump isnt lol) and can come across a bit clueless like that screw up on the border issue (again not that Trump has a clue).
She also seems to have been in hiding during the whole withdrawal backlash.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Its just that even in 2020 he still got a hell of a lot of votes. Harris would have to beat those numbers. And her popularity seems to be dwindling as she gives the impression shes in this mostly for herself (not that Trump isnt lol) and can come across a bit clueless like that screw up on the border issue (again not that Trump has a clue).She also seems to have been in hiding during the whole withdrawal backlash.
Voter turnout was high in 2020, why Biden got the most votes of any Presidential candidate ever, that also increased Trump's number. Trump still lost and lost the popular vote not once, but twice. He's damaged goods now, imo.
Huh? She's been supporting his decisions in Afghanistan while not taking the spotlight in major events, what a VP normally does.
Originally posted by Robtard
Huh? She's been supporting his decisions in Afghanistan while not taking the spotlight in major events, what a VP normally does.
Oh okay. Just with this much backlash Id expect her to step up a notch.
Especially when this VP (unlike most) has a good shot at running for President at the very next election.
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Yeah, sometimes the boss has to take the bumps.
That's how it normally works for the US President.
Jan 2017 to Jan 2021 was the exception where the POTUS didn't make any mistakes and it was everyone else's fault when shit happened, at least according to the Rightist.
Originally posted by RobtardIf you front anything, you have to stand it almost always, otherwise you undermine your character. It is what it is, the buck has to stop somewhere. Weasel words only worked for Trump because his fan base was the stouts and weasels.
That's how it normally works for the US President.Jan 2017 to Jan 2021 was the exception where the POTUS didn't make any mistakes and it was everyone else's fault when shit happened, at least according to the Rightist.
He's probably too incompetent to even know how to do that properly lol.
Like I said, I almost feel sorry for him. It is not cool to make fun of people who are suffering from such a degenerative mental disease as Dementia, as Biden clearly is, as we are all gonna get old one day (assuming we live long enough) and it might happen to us.
Karma is a b*tch, after all.
Originally posted by Robtard
If she stepped up more in the spotlight over this, the Right would call Biden weak for hiding behind his VP, or weaker than they already are for having the balls to finally pull out of Afghanistan.
Yeah but cant make your moves being fearful of what the Right might say. Or nothing good would get done.
Just gotta be ready to fight back against their BS.
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Yeah, sometimes the boss has to take the bumps.
My point being if she wants to be POTUS in 2024 (or 2025 is it?), then she needs to step up her game Imo.
This was the right thing to do. Own it. Im glad Biden has now. All credit to him.