Superman vs. MCU Captain Marvel (What if)

Originally posted by 9jaboy

Thor dodged some of her blasts . And you doubt whether he can avoid them?

Because they were both fighting so casually, you can't place any real limits on them from those fights.

And both of them can fire blasts in all directions. And I presume those blasts won't be moving in slow motion to Kal.

Originally posted by h1a8
If she's a statue then why not?

Depends where they fight, and what she's doing.

If they are fighting in space and she is flying around in space at the ridiculous speeds she can, then why would she be a statue?

No one who can dodge photon beams and lightning bolts from point blank range is slow.

Originally posted by KingD19
"What If?" Carol and Thor are far more powerful than MCU Carol and Thor. The What If canon is insanely OP compared to live action MCU and youc can't compare them because one is so much more over the top than the other. Thor was fast enough to clean up everywhere he partied in the time it took Freyja to get to Earth from the Bifrost Bridge. That was several continents worth of party trash he had to get up in moments.

They demonstrated no combat speed feats that imply they can touch JL Superman.

They won't be hitting Kal in a slug fest. I'm just thinking of tagging him with Omni Directional blasts, and taking advantage of travel speed.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Because they were both fighting so casually, you can't place any real limits on them from those fights.

And both of them can fire blasts in all directions. And I presume those blasts won't be moving in slow motion to Kal.

Why not? A blast Thor dodged.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
They won't be hitting Kal in a slug fest. I'm just thinking of tagging him with Omni Directional blasts, and taking advantage of travel speed.

Seems like a bit of a stretch tbh.

Originally posted by 9jaboy
You can't place a no limit fallacy either. Kal was casually dodging steppenwolf and smiling.

Why not? A blast Thor dodged.

What no limit fallacy have I placed?

You think Steppenwolf punches faster than Cap Marvels energy blasts move? Or moved anywhere close as fast as she can fly ?

They can both blast in multiple directions. Thor dodging a blast is a good showing for him. But Winter Soldier has blocked bullets, doesnt make him the same speed as a bullet, or even close.

Don't really see how Superman can hurt Carol. None of his punches are strong enough to launch her to a different country and his eye blasts will only power her up.

Sure she'll struggle to catch him for quite a bit, but she'll eventually lay her hands on him and it should be a simple matter of overpowering him and snapping his neck.

We don't really know what the extent of Carol's energy absorbing powers are. It's interesting though as it's something a lot of people have been speculating about since Endgame, because she seemed to draw energy from the IG which allowed her to power up her aura and go from struggling against Thanos' strength to easily overpowering him. However, a lot of people dismissed it as headcanon at the time. But now we have also seen a version of MCU Captain Marvel directly absorb a sustained electricity blast from Thor to power herself as well, so it lends more credibility to the Endgame theory.

I thought she could absorb power from the stones because they gave her her powers? And she definitely couldn't absorb the power stone when Thanos hit her with it, so that suggests there is a limit.

Originally posted by Psychotron
I thought she could absorb power from the stones because they gave her her powers? And she definitely couldn't absorb the power stone when Thanos hit her with it, so that suggests there is a limit.

Well, it appears that she has to make a conscious effort to absorb energy directed at her. It's not something that happens automatically when she gets hit by energy attacks. But she can absorb energy from sources other than Infinity Stones. When she fought Thor during a What If episode he fired a continuous stream of lightning at her for almost 15 seconds and she absorbed it with a smile on her face.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
We don't really know what the extent of Carol's energy absorbing powers are. It's interesting though as it's something a lot of people have been speculating about since Endgame, because she seemed to draw energy from the IG which allowed her to power up her aura and go from struggling against Thanos' strength to easily overpowering him. However, a lot of people dismissed it as headcanon at the time. But now we have also seen a version of MCU Captain Marvel directly absorb a sustained electricity blast from Thor to power herself as well, so it lends more credibility to the Endgame theory.

I sure hope her absorption powers have a cap, otherwise that would make her an extremely boring character. But at least based on her showings against the IG and Thor's lightning, I think it's pretty safe to assume Kal's eyebeams aren't powerful enough to be able to overload her.

Originally posted by FrothByte
I sure hope her absorption powers have a cap, otherwise that would make her an extremely boring character. But at least based on her showings against the IG and Thor's lightning, I think it's pretty safe to assume Kal's eyebeams aren't powerful enough to be able to overload her.

Well, a version of her got obliterated by Ultron who went about it pretty leisurely, so there is definitely a limit. But yeah, there's a big gap between solar system-busting energy wave and Thor's lightning, so estimating exactly where that limit sits is extremely difficult.

Strange Supreme's absorbing abilities are more OP in my opinion. He can not only absorb extremely powerful energy attacks (like Ultron's galaxy-buster that he literally ate like a snack) but can even absorb living beings to power himself up. And because he's a literal monster at this point, he also no longer has main timeline Strange's weakness of being a baseline human. I think that's why the writers ended up having him take up eternal guardianship over Killmonger, Zola Ultron and that set of Infinity Stones, because he was too powerful to keep around otherwise.

He also never broke his hands. Not that it matters, but meh thought id mention it.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
He also never broke his hands. Not that it matters, but meh thought id mention it.

On a kind of related note, I noticed he doesn't use a Sling Ring at all yet can still create portals not only to different locations but also between different dimensions and universes. He's so far above main timeline Strange (and any other MCU sorcerer for that matter) that it's not even funny.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
What no limit fallacy have I placed?

You think Steppenwolf punches faster than Cap Marvels energy blasts move? Or moved anywhere close as fast as she can fly ?

They can both blast in multiple directions. Thor dodging a blast is a good showing for him. But Winter Soldier has blocked bullets, doesnt make him the same speed as a bullet, or even close.

I think WW is faster than Carol.

I dunno what you're arguing here, She will be frozen to Superman, no reason to suggest otherwise.

Carol stomps and anyone saying otherwise are Superman trolls.

Originally posted by carver9
Carol stomps and anyone saying otherwise are Superman trolls.

Originally posted by h1a8
Why do you say she stomps?

Ultron Helmet survived a Galaxy destroying blast, planet explosions, etc... and she was crumbling it with her hands. She was tanking the center of a planet pressure/heat. She stands in one spot while Superman pounds on her, doing no damage and she one punch kills him. This is a non-fight.

Originally posted by carver9
Ultron Helmet survived a Galaxy destroying blast, planet explosions, etc... and she was crumbling it with her hands. She was tanking the center of a planet pressure/heat.

So that's the one from Ultron and Lone Black Widow's world right?

I guess the one from the Dead Avengers world (that Lone BW joined at the end) is different as is the one who tussled with Party Thor.