Originally posted by jaden_2.0
The amusing argument is that the Scots want independence because they hate the English when the reality is that the English are generally far more xenophobic than the Scots including against their own supposed countrymen. The continuing narrative from the dominant media in Britain is that Scotland is a drag on the UK economy and that the English are constantly subsidising Scotland because the Scottish government chooses to fund things like free prescriptions where as the UK government choose to spend their money on other things like funnelling billions upon billions in contracts to their friends and relatives to deliver absolutely nothing. Example. They spent £37,000,000,000 on a test and trace system that completely failed. They awarded a PPE contract to a friend of a minister via text messages who had zero experience in acquiring PPE. They currently have £8,000,000,000 of utterly useless PPE sitting rotting in storage because it was deemed not suitable for use in the NHS.https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/12/17/world/europe/britain-covid-contracts.html
The dominant English view is, if the Scots want to leave then let them. Ive never encountered anti-Scottish sentiment in England but I have encountered a lot of anti-English sentiment in Scotland. A simple example is the bizarre practice of Scottish people supporting 'anyone but England' in sporting events. The 'rivalry' and sense of tension is almost entirely one-dimensional. I don't think I've met an Englishmen who has a negative view of Scotland or who would fail to support Scotland in an international sporting event, unless they were playing England of course.
Not sure how to go with that claim about Scottish funding of the NHS etc... not really sure what it means. That the English are self-xenophobic?
Originally posted by Robtard
'"Anyone but England" in sporting events.'.I've seen that here in regards to the Irish and Irish Americans.
You mean Irish people saying they'd support anyone rather than England or New Yorkers saying theyd support anyone other than Boston?
The English-Irish rivalry one can understand, similar realities obtain between Germany and the Netherlands. However, Northern Irish wouldn't typically express an 'anyone but england' view unless, like me, they pro-unification/catholic
Originally posted by Klaw
England sucks.
You would say that, you're a namby pamby leftist who thinks power resides in the people rather than in the Legitimate Authority ordained by Almighty God to rest upon the chosen instruments of his inscrutable Providence known otherwise to prudent secular minds as immovable History.
Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
The dominant English view is, if the Scots want to leave then let them. Ive never encountered anti-Scottish sentiment in England but I have encountered a lot of anti-English sentiment in Scotland. A simple example is the bizarre practice of Scottish people supporting 'anyone but England' in sporting events. The 'rivalry' and sense of tension is almost entirely one-dimensional. I don't think I've met an Englishmen who has a negative view of Scotland or who would fail to support Scotland in an international sporting event, unless they were playing England of course.Not sure how to go with that claim about Scottish funding of the NHS etc... not really sure what it means. That the English are self-xenophobic?
Not that there's many chances for the English to support Scotland in major tournaments tbf 😄
I'm not asking you to go anywhere with that. It's merely an observation that the Scottish government chooses to fund free prescriptions and the UK government does not. They easily could and some parties put that in their manifestos but the English choose to not vote for them then complain that the Scots free prescriptions are paid for by them. Rather than complaining about what their government decides to spend their taxes on.
Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Not that there's many chances for the English to support Scotland in major tournaments tbf 😄I'm not asking you to go anywhere with that. It's merely an observation that the Scottish government chooses to fund free prescriptions and the UK government does not. They easily could and some parties put that in their manifestos but the English choose to not vote for them then complain that the Scots free prescriptions are paid for by them. Rather than complaining about what their government decides to spend their taxes on.
The only salient point here is the idea that the English are complaining about how the Scottish Government is spending money- they aren't. English people don't harbour negative feelings towards Scots
Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
The only salient point here is the idea that the English are complaining about how the Scottish Government is spending money- they aren't. English people don't harbour negative feelings towards Scots
They are. I've seen the snide remarks by TV talk show guests and the large number of social media whingers making these arguments repeatedly for years. The best place for it, as you would expect, is the comments sections of Mail and Express articles.