Originally posted by ilikecomics
That's rather post modern of you, do you think this about every word ?Can racism mean you like all races equally ?
Can love mean assault ?
Not sure what you're getting at, tbh.
Alt-right, as a term, gets thrown around and used so much that I think in a lot of cases, it ends up being diluted to basically nothingness.
Things like "racism" are a hell of a lot more defined.
Originally posted by ilikecomics
I think the white nationalist element is overplayed.
I'd argue there's an element of white idenitarianism, but that's not racist.
Blacks mostly like blacks, Jews mostly like Jews, Chinese mostly like the Chinese, the white idenitarians argue whites should be able to do the same.I'm not a nationalist or a white idenitarian, but alot of the arguments for both can seem sensible.
"White identitarianism" is a euphamism for "white supremacy" that racists use to disguise their racism.
Just like you pretending to not be a racist, while praising white indetitarianism as totally "sensible," and not at all racist.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
"White identitarianism" is a euphamism for "white supremacy" that racists use to disguise their racism.Just like you pretending to not be a racist, while praising white indetitarianism as totally "sensible," and not at all racist.
And what would you consider legitimate arguments promoting white identity that wasn't mired in racism?
What you are effectively doing is closing off any and all legitimate opposition to your idealogy. Diversity MUST be correct, no questions asked. White identity IS toxic.
That isn't an argument. It's an ultimatum.
I dare you to offer arguments against your idealogy and beliefs that you could respect. Any arguments, from any corner that is opposed to yours.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
"White identitarianism" is a euphamism for "white supremacy" that racists use to disguise their racism.Just like you pretending to not be a racist, while praising white indetitarianism as totally "sensible," and not at all racist.
I'm not a white idenitarian, as I already said. Race is important, but not th most important thing. I focus more so on the tyranny/liberty axis.
Some of the alt Right's arguments are sensible, the same way some commie arguments are. Feminism got it right when it told women to leave abusive men, but I think feminism is poison. You can appreciate ideas without appreciating a larger worldview.
For example you think Rothbard and hoppe are alt right, when rothbard teamed up with the new left to protest Vietnam and hoppe explicitly excluded the alt right from his property and freedom society after having them and seeing his ideas and the alt Rights ideas did not mesh.
If I was racist I would tell you lol the only way white nationalism would work is via a state, which I am adamantly against.
I don't like trannys for example and I wouldn't hide that even tho it's unfashionable to have that opinion, and I wouldn't use euphemisms to discuss my antipathy for them. They're mentally ill men pretending to be women. I'm not saying this to branch off on another argument about trannys, but to show I have no problem speaking my mind.
Originally posted by cdtm
And what would you consider legitimate arguments promoting white identity that wasn't mired in racism?What you are effectively doing is closing off any and all legitimate opposition to your idealogy. Diversity MUST be correct, no questions asked. White identity IS toxic.
That isn't an argument. It's an ultimatum.
I dare you to offer arguments against your idealogy and beliefs that you could respect. Any arguments, from any corner that is opposed to yours.
You do not know what my beliefs are.
I like white people the best. I'm white so that's why.
Having said that, I don't discriminate against non-white, or different cultures, in fact, if I'm dealing with a white person who speaks a foreign language like French or German, I'd still be like "I can't ****ing understand you!" yet, I don't see why skin colour is such a big deal to some people.
Originally posted by Blakemore
I like white people the best. I'm white so that's why.Having said that, I don't discriminate against non-white, or different cultures, in fact, if I'm dealing with a white person who speaks a foreign language like French or German, I'd still be like "I can't ****ing understand you!" yet, I don't see why skin colour is such a big deal to some people.
Linguistic and cultural differences are also something that divides people, doesn't mean you hate people from a different culture or someone who speaks a different language.
However that doesn't mean you cant speak on deficiencies and merits of both (language and culture), whereas this doesn't make sense with race.
Originally posted by ilikecomicsLook, race doesn't exist. There are genetic variances in humans but that doesn't mean diddly dick, unless you're talking about scientific analysis amongst certain groups who share a certain trait that can be backed up by science, such as melanin, for example.
Linguistic and cultural differences are also something that divides people, doesn't mean you hate people from a different culture or someone who speaks a different language.However that doesn't mean you cant speak on deficiencies and merits of both (language and culture), whereas this doesn't make sense with race.
It's not like the theories from 18th century scientists who thought there were mongoloid race, capoid race, congoloid race, caucasoid race etc.
Modern science has developed way passed that narrow minded thinking.
Originally posted by Blakemore10/10 Post 👆
Look, race doesn't exist. There are genetic variances in humans but that doesn't mean diddly dick, unless you're talking about scientific analysis amongst certain groups who share a certain trait that can be backed up by science, such as melanin, for example.It's not like the theories from 18th century scientists who thought there were mongoloid race, capoid race, congoloid race, caucasoid race etc.
Modern science has developed way passed that narrow minded thinking.
Originally posted by Blakemore
Look, race doesn't exist. There are genetic variances in humans but that doesn't mean diddly dick, unless you're talking about scientific analysis amongst certain groups who share a certain trait that can be backed up by science, such as melanin, for example.It's not like the theories from 18th century scientists who thought there were mongoloid race, capoid race, congoloid race, caucasoid race etc.
Modern science has developed way passed that narrow minded thinking.
Then why are there differences in the average IQs of different racial groups ?
Originally posted by ilikecomicsBecause the test you provided looked more like something a child could do well at.
Then why are there differences in the average IQs of different racial groups ?
It's basic pattern recognition, and if I couldn't speak English, I probably wouldn't be able to answer a single question.
Originally posted by Blakemore
Because the test you provided looked more like something a child could do well at.It's basic pattern recognition, and if I couldn't speak English, I probably wouldn't be able to answer a single question.
IQ measures general intelligence known as g, it's not simple pattern recognition.
Originally posted by Blakemore
I took some of those tests when I was in primary school and even then I was scoring in the 110s. They're not accurate tests of intelligence.
Yes they are, IQ testing is incredibly mainstream.
One of the defining moments in proving this was macnamara's morons during nam. The army found anyone with an IQ of 83 or less couldn't be given a single job they wouldn't cause more harm in trying than not. Like when a kid tries to help you make a cake and just throws eggs on the floor.