Originally posted by Sin I AM
Yea he was weakened
I was talking about Reed's equipment mimicking Sentry's calming aura.
And Sentry himself comments the amount of energy he would need to use in order to beat amped, enraged Hulk would threaten everyone.
So no, Jenkin's Sentry calming down Savage Hulk is not viable at all.
Originally posted by cdtm
So is the unleashed Sentry in WWH stronger then ANY version of Siege Sentry?The version who beat Molecule Man say?
My question to you is, what's the difference? Sentry admitted in his fight against Hulk he is the only person he can go all out on. Molecule Man killed him, Sentry reformed but he got blown to bits. Also, wasn't that Void Sentry and not just Sentry?
Originally posted by carver9
My question to you is, what's the difference? Sentry admitted in his fight against Hulk he is the only person he can go all out on. Molecule Man killed him, Sentry reformed but he got blown to bits. Also, wasn't that Void Sentry and not just Sentry?
Hey Carver, dunno if you saw this message I put to you. What do you think?
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Hey Carver, over time I've gone over this argument and I think the best explanation is like this.(Let's use the Hulk as an example)
Lets say we are in teh timeline where the Worldbreaker Hulk comic series has just finished. Hulk at essentially his most powerful
Spoiler:. So we have seen that.
(besides from Kluh 😛)Then in a random comic I'm about to make up we have Savage Hulk about to fight Nebulon. This Savage Hulk you would agree is much weaker than Worldbreaker. His handicap is just being less powerful for the obvious reasons. Now he can still go all out if he wants.
But if you and me had some magical measuring equipment and one of us stood next to WBH and me Savage one of us would be reporting a much greater output of power than the other. Simply because no matter how much the weaker Hulk is going all out he is still ultimately weaker no matter what.
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And that is how I see this fight with the Sentry in WWH. He is absolutely going all out, but with the qualifier that he is going all out in the much weakened state that he is in as shown in the comic (at least in my opinion). So Robert in that comic can go all out all he wants, but if Voidtry or lets use Death Sentry were to take his place there would be a difference. Since they don't hgave a handicap in the form of being affected by the Agoraphobia and/or schizophrenia.
I agree with that. I think Void out Sentry is more powerful than your standard Sentry but I think WWH Sentry is FAR more powerful than your standard Sentry. The Sentry that we saw fought Blue Marvel, Genis, Hercules, Namor, Red Hulk, WWH Sentry is leagues above this version of Sentry (and would outright murder everyone I've named). Now if you're mentioning Sentry at his absolute most highest showings ever, then I can't argue with that.
Originally posted by carver9
What's Sentry best showing?
Not having read comics at all for a long while or so I can't really remember many obscure feats that might be more impressive; so I will just name some that I remember recently.
Death Seed Sentry stopping Exitars descent would be one. When baring in mind Rogue after absorbing the powers of (I don't know how many heroes since I don't remember the comic much) a very large amount of heroes wasn't stopping "him" at all. Sentry came along and outright stopped him I think (like I say I don't really recall the events of the comic that well). There was always a debate as to Rogue making up 50% of the power to holding Exitar back but from what I remember of the comic Rogue was making absolutely no impact on Exitars descent at all, Sentry came along and Stark I think aid "Whoever they have holding the other foot, they've completely stopped Exitars descent."
My recall of anything past that is pretty vague so I can't really be much of a help.
Originally posted by carver9
What made him weakened? Explain please (you won't, I know exactly what you're going to say).
He stood in the doorway because he was terrified of being outside, his mental state (like say Gladiator for example) dictate his power levels, he couldn't control his powers, etc...or you know you could just, I dunno, maybe read the arc and see for yourself.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I was talking about Reed's equipment mimicking Sentry's calming aura.And Sentry himself comments the amount of energy he would need to use in order to beat amped, enraged Hulk would threaten everyone.
So no, Jenkin's Sentry calming down Savage Hulk is not viable at all.
If you're talking about something other than what I'm talking about then don't attempt to correct me.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
If you're talking about something other than what I'm talking about then don't attempt to correct me.
Sentry would've tried the calming aura if it had been that simple.
The story made it crystal clear it wasn't.
Same shit with energy drain, which always gets you wtfpwnt on this site.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Sentry would've tried the calming aura if it had been that simple.The story made it crystal clear it wasn't.
Same shit with energy drain, which always gets you wtfpwnt on this site.
Because his powers are fluctuating based on his mental. It's not too difficult a concept to grasp.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Sentry would've tried the calming aura if it had been that simple.The story made it crystal clear it wasn't.
Same shit with energy drain, which always gets you wtfpwnt on this site.
That's like arguing WWH was immune to time travel, because if it were that simple they'd have tried it.
"Why didn't Strange just cast a spell and time travel to when Bruce was a baby?"
"If it were that simple, it would have been tried. It wasn't, so Hulk is immune to it, obviously."
Weak argument. At best you could argue a facsimile from Reed attempted it, but.....writers love showing big brains overestimating their own smartness and failing.
There's a good chance that Reed's device was more effective than Sentry himself, considering his track record.
When he talks with Tony, Sentry elaborates how he would need to expend vast amount of his energies in order to stop this particular version of the Hulk.
Savage Hulk was basically a retarded baby - WWH was a wholly different persona and more powerful.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Because his powers are fluctuating based on his mental. It's not too difficult a concept to grasp.
Of course, but the calming aura never required Sentry to be even semi-coherent...
And calming a baby is one thing, calming the angriest adult version of the Hulk is a different matter.