Re: No, Biden isn't defunding the Police.
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Remember when the right wing posters here said he supported that?
Whirly remembers and wishes the thread still existed in all its far right, sickening, insurgent, pre-revolutionary glory!
Does Biden back the ACLU?
https://www.aclu.org/news/criminal-law-reform/defunding-the-police-will-actually-make-us-safer/
How about civil rights:
https://www.afsc.org/blogs/news-and-commentary/6-reasons-why-its-time-to-defund-police
What you are doing is playing a shell game. You never look at a candidates words at face value. You look at who they support, and who they take contributions from.
Since you never miss an opportunity to point out if a Right leaning person associates with known racists, like you did with Kyle Rittenhouse, I can only assume you know this. And that you are intentionally and deceptively applying a double standard.
Either you're lying. Or you live in a partisan bubble.
I'd vote on the option A personally.
Re: No, Biden isn't defunding the Police.
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Remember when the right wing posters here said he supported that?
Whirly remembers and wishes the thread still existed in all its far right, sickening, insurgent, pre-revolutionary glory!
Robtard remembers as well.
Biden is all about funding the police so they're better trained, have health professional to deal with mental illness, etc, he's literally pushing for this as part of his agenda.
"President Joe Biden says defunding police is not the answer to stopping gun crimes and killings. He spoke in New York about recent attacks on police and gun violence." -snip
I absolutely think law enforcement should be abolished and replaced with peace officers.
Peace officers wouldn't act as foot soliders for the powers that be, but rather would protect people and property.
Currently the great proportion of security is already supplied by market forces i.e. bouncers, security guards, camera companies etc.
It not disgusting to prefer competition among providers of security instead of a Monopoly on it, unless you think monopolies are badass.
Re: Re: No, Biden isn't defunding the Police.
Originally posted by cdtm
Does Biden back the ACLU?https://www.aclu.org/news/criminal-law-reform/defunding-the-police-will-actually-make-us-safer/
How about civil rights:
https://www.afsc.org/blogs/news-and-commentary/6-reasons-why-its-time-to-defund-police
What you are doing is playing a shell game. You never look at a candidates words at face value. You look at who they support, and who they take contributions from.
Since you never miss an opportunity to point out if a Right leaning person associates with known racists, like you did with Kyle Rittenhouse, I can only assume you know this. And that you are intentionally and deceptively applying a double standard.
Either you're [b]lying.
Or you live in a partisan bubble.I'd vote on the option A personally. [/B]
A government existing at all is an infringement on one's liberties.
Originally posted by ilikecomics
I absolutely think law enforcement should be abolished and replaced with peace officers.Peace officers wouldn't act as foot soliders for the powers that be, but rather would protect people and property.
Currently the great proportion of security is already supplied by market forces i.e. bouncers, security guards, camera companies etc.
It not disgusting to prefer competition among providers of security instead of a Monopoly on it, unless you think monopolies are badass.
It seems like you want to do away with the police and replace them with the police.
Originally posted by Robtard
It seems like you want to do away with the police and replace them with the police.
I want the Monopoly on the production of security and defense to be demonopolized.
Competition allows for the consumers to dictate their level of security, instead of paying for it even if their don't need it (taxation for police).
Plus in most cases the police have impunity from criticism.
It's the difference between a citizen's arrest or a police arrest.
If the citizen is wrong in his analysis he may be tried for kidnapping if the arrest is deemed unlawful.
If a police is wrong, there's no avenue of recourse for the victim.
Originally posted by ilikecomicsdurcry
I want the Monopoly on the production of security and defense to be demonopolized.Competition allows for the consumers to dictate their level of security, instead of paying for it even if their don't need it (taxation for police).
Plus in most cases the police have impunity from criticism.
It's the difference between a citizen's arrest or a police arrest.
If the citizen is wrong in his analysis he may be tried for kidnapping if the arrest is deemed unlawful.If a police is wrong, there's no avenue of recourse for the victim.
Re: Re: No, Biden isn't defunding the Police.
Originally posted by Robtard
Robtard remembers as well.Biden is all about funding the police so they're better trained, have health professional to deal with mental illness, etc, he's literally pushing for this as part of his agenda.
"President Joe Biden says defunding police is not the answer to stopping gun crimes and killings. He spoke in New York about recent attacks on police and gun violence." -snip
Originally posted by ilikecomicsHoly f*ck...
Competition allows for the consumers to dictate their level of security, instead of paying for it even if their don't need it (taxation for police)
Can you imagine needing the police in an emergency and not having them because your small local municipality can't afford to pay for the high priced security forces? Or because contract renewal negotiations have stalled? Who takes over at that point? This shit is straight from the book of Crassus: send your private fire brigade to put out a house fire, but only after the owners have paid your colossal fee, or sold their home and land to you.
It's cute that you want to remove government and regulatory oversight from everything in exchange for "market forces" of capitalism, but you hate monopolies. Monopolies are the natural result of corporate powers unrestrained by government limitation. Remember Standard Oil and the Trusts? Why you believe privately owned monopolization of security into the hands of a few large regional companies won't happen is beyond me.
Not every f*cking industry needs to be privatized or run by corporate overlords. Stop sucking "the market's" dick, it doesn't care about you.
You're dead on about the monopolies forming, big companies either pushing out or consuming the smaller until there's just potentially one selling their service at the price they dictate is fair to them.
I'd also wager that going with the 'lowest bidder' when it comes to police and fire services probably isn't a great idea when this 'free market paradise' forms. Because the lowest bidder would be the ones winning the contracts 9.9 out of 10 times.