Can't recall off the top of my head, not really fan of the character. But if we go by "has beaten", I err on the side of caution and say Damian wins.
Why I went with stats as writers have characters like Wolverine and Batman punching tons above their weight level because they're fan favorites.
Stat-wise: Shatter is stronger, faster and more agile than Damian, he can also take more damage and he should also be better with any weapon he's using due to his advanced learning abilities.
Originally posted by Senor CageDisagree, stats matter a lot when judging these fights and skill is great, but can fall nigh useless at times. eg Lady Shiva is far more skilled than most, but she'd lose to the powerhouses like Superman and Gladiator. Not that I'm saying Shattestar's skills/powers/abilities are that far above Damian's skills/abilities
Stats don't have much meaning when your opponent is a lot more skilled. Damian could use the death blow (as he did with NoBody) and end the fight one hit. He also killed a Talon who was stronger, faster, and more agile.
Didn't Morgan beat the living shit out of Damian and the death blow only came after Batman severely wounded Morgan and he was incapacitated?
Which reminds me now, Shatterstar has that stupid bio-electric shockwave attack in his arsenal.
Originally posted by Robtard
Disagree, stats matter a lot when judging these fights and skill is great, but can fall nigh useless at times. eg Lady Shiva is far more skilled than most, but she'd lose to the powerhouses like Superman and Gladiator. Not that I'm saying Shattestar's skills/powers/abilities are that far above Damian's skills/abilitiesDidn't Morgan beat the living shit out of Damian and the death blow only came after Batman severely wounded Morgan and he was incapacitated?
Which reminds me now, Shatterstar has that stupid bio-electric shockwave attack in his arsenal.
I'm not saying they can beat power houses like those, but Shiva has own d people outside her weight class before. Check out the last Batman arc she was in.
Same with Damian.
Originally posted by Robtard
Disagree, stats matter a lot when judging these fights and skill is great, but can fall nigh useless at times. eg Lady Shiva is far more skilled than most, but she'd lose to the powerhouses like Superman and Gladiator. Not that I'm saying Shattestar's skills/powers/abilities are that far above Damian's skills/abilitiesDidn't Morgan beat the living shit out of Damian and the death blow only came after Batman severely wounded Morgan and he was incapacitated?
Which reminds me now, Shatterstar has that stupid bio-electric shockwave attack in his arsenal.
OP changed the stips and took away his meta abilities. So no bio electric and bfr stuff. He's basically an enhanced agile human with ok fighting skills against an skilled child. He's good but he isn't that good and someone mentioned Connor which is a terrible example
Originally posted by Senor Cage
Gimped? Anyway, nobody really addressed the question in the room: Who has Shatterstar actually fought on Damian's level?
Domino is about Damian's level....he fought her
And yes gimped. Anytime you have to take away a characters abilities in order for their adversary to have a chance to fight it's gimping. It's acknowledging that under normal circumstances they'd get beaten.
Originally posted by Sin I AMDomino stomped Shatterstar when her powers were malfunctioning and she was injured.
Domino is about Damian's level....he fought herAnd yes gimped. Anytime you have to take away a characters abilities in order for their adversary to have a chance to fight it's gimping. It's acknowledging that under normal circumstances they'd get beaten.
lol yeah. ss doesn't exactly have a great record against anyone of real note. i guess his best 'win' would be against the thing...? i know he's been shown to teleport now, so that would obviously be a big advantage here. if he can blast from a distance, teleport and get in close i think he'd still have the physical advantage but damian is certainly winning his share. i think it's close and i'm undecided about the majority here.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Domino is about Damian's level....he fought herAnd yes gimped. Anytime you have to take away a characters abilities in order for their adversary to have a chance to fight it's gimping. It's acknowledging that under normal circumstances they'd get beaten.
He doesn't have a good track record against her.