Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!There's no misogyny in this. You would stand up for the people you love.
Actually an interesting debate, to be honest if my Mrs had a condition that was upsetting her and someone took the piss and clearly upset her further, I might well hit them too. Some misogyny is in this as far as some reactions, I also feel the usual suspects want to make it racial. Smith should not have hit the comedian, but I get why he did it.
Originally posted by samhain
It's funny that the closeted bigots who are demanding Smith have his Oscar rescinded, are the same people who have raged against cancel culture for the past 5 years.
Which is just stupid as Smith acting like a fool has nothing to do with his acting job and winning.
Though I would understand if the Oscars does not invite him back, even if he's up for another award. Someone can accept it in his place.
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
I think the reactions of many online are just an excuse go go off at a black woman.
That's definitely a thing. Jada is in the right to feel offended at the joke, it's stupid to attack her.
Will shouldn't have acted the way he did though. I get it, but it's still wrong.
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
I wouldn't know what people with intracranial and Facebook do Stilt. I don't use it.
Then you shouldn't be bothering yourself with celebrities at all.
The only thing real about them is their money.
And as Sin noted in the other thread, the whole thing is doing nothing but distracting people from serious matters.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWBread and Circuses... I stopped caring about celebs long ago.
Then you shouldn't be bothering yourself with celebrities at all.The only thing real about them is their money.
And as Sin noted in the other thread, the whole thing is doing nothing but distracting people from serious matters.
Originally posted by Jmanghan
In this case Smith was out of line, butttt... what we do here is on forums and we are protected by anonymity and the fact its the internet.Cucked or not Smith decided to stick with her and stay her husband (Will cheated on her too IIRC), and frankly Rock made an insensitive remark about something she was already extremely sensitive about and had claimed beforehand she was sensitive about it in front of millions of people (thousands actually being present at the Oscars).
However, going up and slapping him in the face is stupid and he should have at least been pulled out of the show. What they both did was wrong, people acting like Chris wasn't out of line for that was ridiculous, but yeah Smith was ultimately in the wrong.
People calling her a "whore" and similar because she cheated on Will Smith are just expressing their hatred of women.
Will Smith cheated on her several time, they separated, while separated she had an affair with some singer.
I don't like Jada Smith, I think she's a meh actor and she comes off as unlikable whenever I hear her talk, but these attacks on her are stupid.
Originally posted by Blakemore
There's no misogyny in this. You would stand up for the people you love.
Pinket is the aggreived party, not Smith. It was not his place to say or do anything. The notion that he needed to intercede on her behalf is sexism. She is not a damsel in distress, she is capable woman. If she had a problem with what Rock said, then she should have said or done something herself. It does not matter what Rock said, Smith is all the way wrong for taking offense for someone else, and assaulting someone. It is stupid, and makes him look emasculated and small.
Originally posted by Adam_PoEIt's different; it's his wife; it's his family.
Pinket is the aggreived party, not Smith. It was not his place to say or do anything. The notion that he needed to intercede on her behalf is sexism. She is not a damsel in distress, she is capable woman. If she had a problem with what Rock said, then she should have said or done something herself. It does not matter what Rock said, Smith is all the way wrong for taking offense for someone else, and assaulting someone. It is stupid, and makes him look emasculated and small.
I can't agree that defending a loved one or friend is inherently sexist simply because the person in question is a woman. That seems quite backwards to me. Oftentimes, the aggrieved party (regardless of gender) will be unable to defend themselves or appear pathetic if they do so.
Admittedly this was just ribbing rather than full on mean spirited bullying. Rock would have made this single joke about Jada before moving on to his next "victim" so there was little reason for Will to intercede at the time. Furthermore, nearly everyone would have forgotten about the joke within a minute or two of its delivery but now, because Will made such a big incident about it, every one knows about it even if they weren't watching the Oscars. In his attempt to defend his wife, he brought far more attention to it.
Actors on a stage.
Were they acting. Were they not acting. Was one of them acting a character.
Every one, Jada, Will, Chris, Every One there would have been aware every second they were there High Def Cameras were on them.
If they were at an event with no cameras or press would any of them have done any thing different (They Would). How much different?
Originally posted by ares834
I can't agree that defending a loved one or friend is inherently sexist simply because the person in question is a woman. That seems quite backwards to me. Oftentimes, the aggrieved party (regardless of gender) will be unable to defend themselves or appear pathetic if they do so.
Pinket is able to defend herself, so yes, it is sexist.