Thanos w/IG vs Every Omega level mutant

Started by Old Man Whirly!3 pages

Originally posted by Classic NES
Thoughts?
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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So your answer is that they didn't do anything thanks to plot devices.

Which answers your question as well.

No. I’m saying that if they could’ve done anything they would have. Thanos was at that time all knowing, or at least it never hinted at him being less until much later.

If they could have done anything while Thanos rearranged reality, then they would have. After all, they did exist is the very same reality as he did. Marvel stated that there were levels to being omniscient. Kubik was shown this, which was in canon before Thanos Quest had even existed. MJJ, and the rest were simply below an IG user.

Originally posted by Stoic
No. I’m saying that if they could’ve done anything they would have. Thanos was at that time all knowing, or at least it never hinted at him being less until much later.

If they could have done anything while Thanos rearranged reality, then they would have. After all, they did exist is the very same reality as he did. Marvel stated that there were levels to being omniscient. Kubik was shown this, which was in canon before Thanos Quest had even existed. MJJ, and the rest were simply below an IG user.

So when Wanda created the House of M reality (as an example), where mutants were the alpha dogs, no one else did anything.... because they couldn't?

true legion would be a much bigger threat to the ig then the overhyped mjj.

wanda, mod, braddock, franklin would get low-diff'd.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So when Wanda created the House of M reality (as an example), where mutants were the alpha dogs, no one else did anything.... because they couldn't?

Precisely. What she did seemed to only affect a particular portion of a reality that she made, and felt the need to perma-change. If she were able to cause the ruckus that Thanos made, wouldn’t she have been challenged? However, even that wouldn’t necessarily be definite proof of anything.

Unless her changes were fine with universal order, as seen when the Living Tribunal passed judgement on Adam Warlock, with Eternity shouting obscenities at him in the background. Adam was judged as being too unique, which in terms of risk assessment, made him appear to be too unstable to actually be a good ruler of that reality. Whatever she did, may have been fine with the powers that be?

On the other hand, Thanos had mastery over all aspects of reality, and was able to finely tune the shape of space with far better precision than the Omega Mutants. For example; he would have already seen Wanda’s plan before it had ever become a notion to her. The same can be said of the rest of the Omega Mutants. That’s just my reasoning in a nutshell. Feel free to quote it, because I have no more to say on the matter.

How do you see this? Your reasoning may be legit.

Originally posted by Stoic
Precisely. What she did seemed to only affect a particular portion of a reality that she made, and felt the need to perma-change. If she were able to cause the ruckus that Thanos made, wouldn’t she have been challenged? However, even that wouldn’t necessarily be definite proof of anything.

Unless her changes were fine with universal order, as seen when the Living Tribunal passed judgement on Adam Warlock, with Eternity shouting obscenities at him in the background. Adam was judged as being too unique, which in terms of risk assessment, made him appear to be too unstable to actually be a good ruler of that reality. Whatever she did, may have been fine with the powers that be?

On the other hand, Thanos had mastery over all aspects of reality, and was able to finely tune the shape of space with far better precision than the Omega Mutants. For example; he would have already seen Wanda’s plan before it had ever become a notion to her. The same can be said of the rest of the Omega Mutants. That’s just my reasoning in a nutshell. Feel free to quote it, because I have no more to say on the matter.

How do you see this? Your reasoning may be legit.

But your logic ignores plot in a very plot driven medium.

Okay. My interpretation may be incorrect, or inaccurate, but it is all that I had to go on. Thanos with the IG had full mastery of everything within his reality. No other could stand up to him, etc. At that time, Thanos was the it guy on the cover.

Marquis of Death multiversal...

Infinity Gauntlet Universal...

mod never displayed any multiversal feats. he was universal at best, and that's only IF you take that weird psi battle between him and clyde (wherein mod seemed to control eternity) at face value. the ig shits all over him.

What does being multiversal or even universal even mean?
We go by feats. Just tell what feats were done. I'm tired of these names or titles that have no meaning in themselves.

MoD steps back in time and destroys the Universe before thanos gets the Infinity Gaunlet. The stones are either destroyed or become trinkets without a Universe to control. Simple. Marquis moves onto another universe, where he still has power.

Or MoD puts a thought in Thanos head and removes the stones from the Gaunlet while Thanos imagines lady Death is sucking his cock, and for entertainment, MoD does what Thanos has always wanted to do, put the stars out. Thanos comes round to see lady Death rutting with the Matquis. The two skeletons ****ing looks like the stop motion from Sinbad and the Eye of the Tiger. They are laughing and mocking Thanos the cuck.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
MoD steps back in time and destroys the Universe before thanos gets the Infinity Gaunlet. The stones are either destroyed or become trinkets without a Universe to control. Simple. Marquis moves onto another universe, where he still has power.
No leaving the battlefield. Time travel to the past is limited to the start of the match.

Originally posted by h1a8
No leaving the battlefield. Time travel to the past is limited to the start of the match.
Why gimp the Marquis H1, this is who he is and what he does. Time and Universes are his thing, he sends thanos to another Universe with a thought and the IG has no power there, because he is Multiversal. 🙂

All established, current continuity omega level mutants i.e Jean Grey, Quentin Quire, Exodus, Jamie Braddock, Mister M, Elixir, Legion, Proteus, Vulcan, Hope, Iceman, Storm and Magneto would lose horribly to the IG. Its not even a debate.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Why gimp the Marquis H1, this is who he is and what he does. Time and Universes are his thing, he sends thanos to another Universe with a thought and the IG has no power there, because he is Multiversal. 🙂
You can Bfr others but can't leave the battlefield via ownself. Those are the forum rules.

Feats of sending someone to another universe with a thought?

Originally posted by Stoic
Why would Jim solo? OG Thanos with the IG was greater than anyone in the universe. If not, then why didn’t Any of those Omega level mutants show up? When he was twisting reality, he was twisting them as well.

Oftentimes characters dont show up because they werent included in the story by the writer. Unless theres an in continuity reason given, then you cant assert a continuity based point for their absence.

In the case of Jaspers though, he was dead in continuity by the time the IG story arc began. Not that i believe he would beat the IG anyway. The guys overrated.

Originally posted by h1a8
You can Bfr others but can't leave the battlefield via ownself. Those are the forum rules.

Feats of sending someone to another universe with a thought?

In Fantastic Four the MOD teleported counterparts of the Fantastic Four from across the multiverse into 616.

https://imgur.com/hnMeryW

https://imgur.com/lqIguCX

He doesnt need to demonstrate a feat of the reverse i.e teleporting someone out of 616 with this in mind.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
In Fantastic Four the MOD teleported counterparts of the Fantastic Four from across the multiverse into 616.

https://imgur.com/hnMeryW

https://imgur.com/lqIguCX

He doesnt need to demonstrate a feat of the reverse i.e teleporting someone out of 616 with this in mind.

Doesnt mean he can warp reality on a multiversal scale. Just means he can open up gateways between universes and teleport people from those universes through it.

Infinity Gauntlet wins imo if Thanos isnt ****ing around.