Re: Tyson Fury - Greatest of all time.
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
For 14 years he has beaten every man put in front of him. Unbeaten, he bows out, getting better as he got olderI think his reach advantage and skill combined mean he is the GOAT. His chin is also monumental.
I hope he can actually enjoy his retirement, health wise! He's earned it.
Read the man had bone spurs removed just before Wilder 3. Actually went in hurt, with shots in both forearms.
Shame he never got to skelp Joshua. And I'd also like to have seen him fight Usyk. Don't think he's the GOAT though. He's the best in what's been a pretty poor couple of decades for the heavyweight division. (Although its better noe than when the Klitchkos dominated)I think a huge part of which has been much less doping nowadays though. Previous era heavyweights were steroided up to the gills. Far more difficult to get away with that these days. Even some juiced up middleweights would've given him a run. Look at the Hagler Hearns fight and tell me their mental ferocity and speed wouldn't have been tough for Fury to handle.
He's technically excellent but I think he would've been beaten by a lot of other heavyweights in their respective primes. Lewis, Tyson, Holyfield to name a few.
Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Shame he never got to skelp Joshua. And I'd also like to have seen him fight Usyk. Don't think he's the GOAT though. He's the best in what's been a pretty poor couple of decades for the heavyweight division. (Although its better noe than when the Klitchkos dominated)I think a huge part of which has been much less doping nowadays though. Previous era heavyweights were steroided up to the gills. Far more difficult to get away with that these days. Even some juiced up middleweights would've given him a run. Look at the Hagler Hearns fight and tell me their mental ferocity and speed wouldn't have been tough for Fury to handle.He's technically excellent but I think he would've been beaten by a lot of other heavyweights in their respective primes. Lewis, Tyson, Holyfield to name a few.
Do you think Ali juiced?
Originally posted by jaden_2.0fury got banned for one of my fave old school roids, Nandralone, Jaden
Possibly. Elite sports started to get rife with it in the early 60s. His physique is attainable naturally though so maybe not.
Originally posted by jaden_2.0Personally I think Wilder hits as hard as anyone ever. Fury overcame him punching power isn't an issue. He has an amazing engine for a giant, as well as skills no man that size has ever been seen to have. He is as much taller than Lewis as Lewis is taller than me. And he is 9-10 inches taller than Tyson. I think he has the tools to beat them all getting up out of the chair is lifting more than gym rats. White is a beast of a man and he treated him like a child in the clinch almost. And yeah, Joshua is a prick, Fury doing him would have been great. Let's hope it happens.
Shame he never got to skelp Joshua. And I'd also like to have seen him fight Usyk. Don't think he's the GOAT though. He's the best in what's been a pretty poor couple of decades for the heavyweight division. (Although its better noe than when the Klitchkos dominated)I think a huge part of which has been much less doping nowadays though. Previous era heavyweights were steroided up to the gills. Far more difficult to get away with that these days. Even some juiced up middleweights would've given him a run. Look at the Hagler Hearns fight and tell me their mental ferocity and speed wouldn't have been tough for Fury to handle.He's technically excellent but I think he would've been beaten by a lot of other heavyweights in their respective primes. Lewis, Tyson, Holyfield to name a few.
Yeah, a win over Usyk definitely cements his place in the GOAT discussion. He's a tall dude with great movement and skilled hands. He also recovered from a Wilder KO punch, while still retaining the mental toughness to keep fighting. Even KO'd Wilder in the rematch with a new strategy, showing his versatility.
Originally posted by StyleTimehe stopped him in the decider too. They both hit the canvas in that one if you recall. Best "trilogy" in a long time. But really despite the draw, Wilder 0 : 3 Fury.
Yeah, a win over Usyk definitely cements his place in the GOAT discussion. He's a tall dude with great movement and skilled hands. He also recovered from a Wilder KO punch, while still retaining the mental toughness to keep fighting. Even KO'd Wilder in the rematch with a new strategy, showing his versatility.
Originally posted by jaden_2.0he hopefully will fight AJ.
Shame he never got to skelp Joshua. And I'd also like to have seen him fight Usyk. Don't think he's the GOAT though. He's the best in what's been a pretty poor couple of decades for the heavyweight division. (Although its better noe than when the Klitchkos dominated)I think a huge part of which has been much less doping nowadays though. Previous era heavyweights were steroided up to the gills. Far more difficult to get away with that these days. Even some juiced up middleweights would've given him a run. Look at the Hagler Hearns fight and tell me their mental ferocity and speed wouldn't have been tough for Fury to handle.He's technically excellent but I think he would've been beaten by a lot of other heavyweights in their respective primes. Lewis, Tyson, Holyfield to name a few.
Originally posted by cdtm👆 For once CD, I agree with you.
The sportsmanship snub pisses me off. Wilder's a great fighter in his own right, bur he rotten attitude tarnished what should have been a proud moment.Joe Fraiser lost to Ali how many times? And he was a class act about it, and no one thinks less of him for the losses because of who he fought.