Originally posted by playa1258This thread is undeniable proof that KMC has become a laughing stock. Look at the responses from known superman fans, reinforced by the fact that it's still open and not closed for spite against superman. This thread would have been closed and warnings given out on any other Comic book site. Some of these Characters would beat superman to death by themselves, together they would tear superman to shreads with no trouble whatever.
Laughing stock of comic sites? Lmao herochat and CBR battle for that title.
Originally posted by JBL
This thread is undeniable proof that KMC has become a laughing stock. Look at the responses from known superman fans, reinforced by the fact that it's still open and not closed for spite against superman. This thread would have been closed and warnings given out on any other Comic book site. Some of these Characters would beat superman to death by themselves, together they would tear superman to shreads with no trouble whatever.
What proof have you seen has convinced you to debunk the Mageddon feat?
No, you see, my request isn't about that.
My request is asking you, what proof convinced YOU. Which piece was the smoking gun, as it were.
If you don't have one, it's ok. You can just admit it. Making claims without proof and using bias is against forum rules, after all - and if you can't back it up, yet you're still on the site, it shows well.....not everything that goes against the rules is banned.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85It's called research. Try it. Will not respond again.
No, you see, my request isn't about that.My request is asking you, what proof convinced YOU. Which piece was the smoking gun, as it were.
If you don't have one, it's ok. You can just admit it. Making claims without proof and using bias is against forum rules, after all - and if you can't back it up, yet you're still on the site, it shows well.....not everything that goes against the rules is banned.
Originally posted by JBL
It's called research. Try it. Will not respond again.
Again, your comprehension is failing.
I'm not generically asking for proof. I am asking for YOUR opinion - which piece, IYO, is compelling enough to debunk the feat.
I AM researching it - by asking you, because you are the only one who can answer it. See how my question is worded? I am specifically asking you for your viewpoint, for your opinion 🙂
But again, if you have none, and it's merely your own bias ....well, that's against forum rules, after all. Warnings should be given out etc etc, as you say.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85When the claim was made about the feat, did you question superman fans? NO. When I read the claim, I took it upon MYSELF to RESEARCH it for myself. Just like I found out the claim was false, I instructed you to do the same. Now of course you are not going to question superman fans for making the claim because you don't want to offend them. I didn't debunk the feat, others did. You have the means to look it up for yourself same as I did. In other words, the proof you want is all over the internet, go find it for yourself. See how I worded that? Or is your comprehension lacking?
Again, your comprehension is failing.I'm not generically asking for proof. I am asking for YOUR opinion - which piece, IYO, is compelling enough to debunk the feat.
I AM researching it - by asking you, because you are the only one who can answer it. See how my question is worded? I am specifically asking you for your viewpoint, for your opinion 🙂
But again, if you have none, and it's merely your own bias ....well, that's against forum rules, after all. Warnings should be given out etc etc, as you say.
Originally posted by JBL
When the claim was made about the feat, did you question superman fans? NO. When I read the claim, I took it upon MYSELF to RESEARCH it for myself. Just like I found out the claim was false, I instructed you to do the same. Now of course you are not going to question superman fans for making the claim because you don't want to offend them. I didn't debunk the feat, others did. You have the means to look it up for yourself same as I did. In other words, the proof you want is all over the internet, go find it for yourself. See how I worded that? Or is your comprehension lacking?
Again.
I am not asking for the 'generic' proof.
I am asking for the proof that convinced you. Which bit of it? Which specific sentence did you read that made you sit back and say ahhhh, yes, that is debunked? Do you understand? I am asking for a specific piece, that only you can provide, because only you know which piece is convincing.
Originally posted by JBL
This thread is undeniable proof that KMC has become a laughing stock. Look at the responses from known superman fans, reinforced by the fact that it's still open and not closed for spite against superman. This thread would have been closed and warnings given out on any other Comic book site. Some of these Characters would beat superman to death by themselves, together they would tear superman to shreads with no trouble whatever.
People like you are why it's still open.
I initially wanted to blast Stilt for making ta spite thread against Superman, but sitting back and thinking about what has been actually shown on panel in terms of full capacity, Superman actually has better feats than all of them. The Sentry has the potential to push him further than the vast majority of any opponent that he has ever faced, but his clutch moments leave much to be desired.
Gladiator turns into a marshmallow whenever he meats an equal or superior force. I mean,, call me biased, but I can’t get the mugging at the hands of Anni-Hulk out of my mind.
Hyperion has been a running joke outside of maybe 3 showings if you’re trying to compare him to what Superman does on average.
Count Nefaria is great when going up against characters far slower than he is, but compared to Superman, his top flight and movement speeds are slow in comparison to Superman’s.
I don’t believe that it is entirely outlandish for someone to believe that this team would steamroll Superman operating at average holding back levels, but this is about Superman operating at peak full capacity. All of these characters outside of the Sentry may not be able to defeat Cyborg Superman in 1v1 battle, let alone defeating a guy that ran all over him within seconds.
Aside from the Sentry, if you were to use the combined feats of this team, they can’t really compete with Superman in a feat war.
Good luck with that.
Originally posted by Stoic
I initially wanted to blast Stilt for making ta spite thread against Superman, but sitting back and thinking about what has been actually shown on panel in terms of full capacity, Superman actually has better feats than all of them. The Sentry has the potential to push him further than the vast majority of any opponent that he has ever faced, but his clutch moments leave much to be desired.Gladiator turns into a marshmallow whenever he meats an equal or superior force. I mean,, call me biased, but I can’t get the mugging at the hands of Anni-Hulk out of my mind.
Hyperion has been a running joke outside of maybe 3 showings if you’re trying to compare him to what Superman does on average.
Count Nefaria is great when going up against characters far slower than he is, but compared to Superman, his top flight and movement speeds are slow in comparison to Superman’s.
I don’t believe that it is entirely outlandish for someone to believe that this team would steamroll Superman operating at average holding back levels, but this is about Superman operating at peak full capacity. All of these characters outside of the Sentry may not be able to defeat Cyborg Superman in 1v1 battle, let alone defeating a guy that ran all over him within seconds.
Aside from the Sentry, if you were to use the combined feats of this team, they can’t really compete with Superman in a feat war.
Good luck with that.
Didn't he hold two universes apart or something? (I never read that comic though).
Originally posted by JBL
It's called research. Try it. Will not respond again.
mmm
Originally posted by JBL
When the claim was made about the feat, did you question superman fans? NO. When I read the claim, I took it upon MYSELF to RESEARCH it for myself. Just like I found out the claim was false, I instructed you to do the same. Now of course you are not going to question superman fans for making the claim because you don't want to offend them. I didn't debunk the feat, others did. You have the means to look it up for yourself same as I did. In other words, the proof you want is all over the internet, go find it for yourself. See how I worded that? Or is your comprehension lacking?
mhmm
Originally posted by JBL
Will not respond again.
mmm
Originally posted by Endless MikeTwo Earths, specifically, because when they touch the universes collapse. Still probably his best feat, but Hickman Hype is pretty firmly planetary, as seen when he managed to stop another planet in motion, but not easily. Universal strength is wank.
Didn't he hold two universes apart or something? (I never read that comic though).
Originally posted by Endless Mike
Didn't he hold two universes apart or something? (I never read that comic though).
Hyperion according to many did briefly hold two realities apart, but I’d argue that he briefly held only the weight of two planets apart that were moving towards each other at tremendous speeds, or at a velocity great enough to pulverize the two planets upon impact of each other.
That actually changes the hard number, in terms of calculating the exact weight that he briefly arrested.
However, Hyperion was quickly placed within a specific weight class, which so happened to be well below a newbie Starbrand user.
Superman? Look, in my honest opinion, based upon the actual best feats that Superman has , which are usable, these guys are big fish in a small pond. Superman was having full blown conversation in super speed before a second elapsed. As mentioned, the only one capable of going the distance is the Sentry, because of Bob’s ability to alter reality.