Originally posted by Stoic
He is in the armor. Is that a correct assessment? My question was this; was it hyperbole? Figures like this have been thrown around in comics a lot, but it may not be an accurate measurement. In some instances the team doing the writing and illustrations may be too lazy to show collateral damage, but at times they do. But what inanimate object in this case would survive that kind of power? On the other hand, we did see the Beyonder vs Molecule Man throw around enough power that could easily destroy Earth. However, a simple explanation could be used to say that they shielded everything from their destructive forces. Neither the Hulk, Thor, or Tony can boast this possibility.
He is in the armor but he's not withstanding the attack. You do know Tony is inside of a Celestial, right? Wondering why you don't think a Celestial level being can dish out this type of power. It was enough to destroy the ring they were fighting on that is parts from a Celestial. How powerful was the attack, Stoic?
For the record, I think that what we have been seeing has pushed the Hulk’s stock way up. However, Thor has yet to show that he is a seasoned Odin Force user ATM. Would you agree Carver?
Don't know why not. This same Thor was wrecking Galactus, Knull and an amped Mangog. He has the full Odin Force and nothing points to him being weaker, Hulk is just that powerful.
Originally posted by carver9
Don't know why not. This same Thor was wrecking Galactus, Knull and an amped Mangog. He has the full Odin Force and nothing points to him being weaker, Hulk is just that powerful.
For one, Odin was nerfed, unless we want to accept Jane Thor as being a Galactus plus level character. Can it work both ways? I mention this because Jane fought Odin pretty darned evenly.
From what I remember, or in this case, perhaps did not read, was when Odin went back to being powerful enough to dwarf a Thor level character. So what happened there Carver? Why are we allowed to assume that Thor with the Odin Force is more powerful than Odin himself was portrayed during his battle with Jane? Can we make that assumption?
Originally posted by carver9
He is in the armor but he's not withstanding the attack. You do know Tony is inside of a Celestial, right? Wondering why you don't think a Celestial level being can dish out this type of power. It was enough to destroy the ring they were fighting on that is parts from a Celestial. How powerful was the attack, Stoic?
No argument there. After all, Tony does say that he created the armor from a Celestial. We don’t exactly know how tough it is, but even if we were to scrutinize the durability of the suit to the nth degree, his reaction, or opinion to how powerful the Hulk had become in undeniable. Bruce is more powerful than he has ever seen him.
Was there anything special about this barrage?
If Odin picks a gun up and shoots someone, then Jarvis picks that same gun up and shoots someone, is there a difference?
Although really, there are two arguments here.
1. Were they special
2. Does it matter
Imagine you had a sheet of wet tissue in front of you. You coul slowly push your fist through......or hit it with your hardest punch. Both results in your fist going through.
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It was outright said on panel that Odins death gave Thor the full fledge power of the Odin Force. This power comes with knowledge. Don't know why you think Thor isn't Odin level. That was the entire point of the transformation.
Also, Odin wasn't at full power when he fought Jane.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Never said that.I asked if Odin gave his full power to Thor, 100% minus 100% =? Do the Carver maths lmao.
Can't remember if I said ghost Odin is skyfather but I do know Thor possess the full power of the Odin Force. My entire point was (when you mentioned Bruce getting beat up by Odin) is that Odin isn't a weak human.
Originally posted by carver9
Can't remember if I said ghost Odin is skyfather but I do know Thor possess the full power of the Odin Force. My entire point was (when you mentioned Bruce getting beat up by Odin) is that Odin isn't a weak human.
This you?
Originally posted by carver9
No one is beating Hulk at this point tbh. The guy is eye blasting and punching through Celestial armor and shit. Pounding on skyfathers and eye blasting ghost figures; skyfather ghost figures. Tanking attacks equivalent to hundredths of thousands suns exploding.
A couple of days ago.
Lmao.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
This you?That was you.
A couple of days ago.
Lmao.
I still think Odin is powerful AF. I don't know how this power disperse is with Odin and Thor. All I know is, even when away from Thor, he is damaging Celestial armor, going inside Hulks mind attacking a mental image of Banner, breaking Hulk amped Thor hand, etc...