Originally posted by Lord Urizen
A Human Courpse is still human, yes. Is a dog no longer a dog, when it's dead? I'd like to know how you define human.....it seems to me that to you a Human is only Human when it has a name, an intelligence, a desire, and is concious. There is MORE to being human than that. 😉
Hmmmm.... this sounds like propaganda to me. What difference does it make how any of the rest of us define human? You claimed to know a foetus is human, and how it's defined as such. I or we are asking you to define it as human.
But just to go ahead and tell you, so that you will not repeat your answer over and over again, which you more than likely will as usual, you cannot define it as human. To try to define it will be like trying to impose your point of view on everyone else. The word human is a label. What you consider human is all due to your opinion. Not absolute fact.
You cannot justify your arguements no matter how hard you try.
Oh... and ignore the post above... it's my gf's name. I posted a reply on here earlier using her name by accident. As you can see, editing it was horrific.
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
The Foetus is not an object though. That's what you seem to not realize. I find it appalling how so many debators can equate a Human Feotus with a peice of crap, with a rock, with a peice of chicken.....you guys fail to realize it's Human, and are so quick to label it something else.
Ey Urizen, yo concuerdo con usted, ese. Yo no entiendo cómo que estas personas pueden igualar a un feto a una piedra. A mí, sueno como alguna forma de la negación, guey.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Ey Urizen, yo concuerdo con usted, ese. Yo no entiendo cómo que estas personas pueden igualar a un feto a una piedra. A mí, sueno como alguna forma de la negación, guey.
Es Porque se ponen mas facil a matar un feto quando creyendo que un feto es nada mas de caca. Si un persona realiza que un feto es human, se pone mas dificil para matar.
Pero el feto es human...y todo se dice que no. Mentirosas !
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
I know, and eso es lo que tengo la comprensión del problema. Its gonna be a person, pero algunas personas no molestan reconocer eso.
Have you not been paying attention? Everyone is aware that a fetus will eventually become a person. By that very phrase, your own argument dies. It will become means that logically, a fetus is not a person.
Potentiality, while being a valid point that deserves consideration before a decision is made, cannot be the singular defining reason as to halt the practice of legal abortion.
I'll explain using some examples.
Say a man has sex with a woman, but does not use a condom. If he had not used a condom, a baby would have been born. He prevented a child from being born. Does that make him a killer? I, and many others, say no.
Say a woman is killed in a car accident. She could have been a mother, and raised twenty healthy children. Were 21 people killed in the accident? No. The act did not happen.
Want another? Fine.
Cell phones give off radiation. This could cause cancer. Should cell phones be banned because they could kill people?
Nothing is human before it becomes human. A relatively simple concept, no?
Originally posted by crazylozer
Have you not been paying attention? Everyone is aware that a fetus will eventually become a person. By that very phrase, your own argument dies. It will become means that logically, a fetus is not a person.Potentiality, while being a valid point that deserves consideration before a decision is made, cannot be the singular defining reason as to halt the practice of legal abortion.
I'll explain using some examples.
Say a man has sex with a woman, but does not use a condom. If he had not used a condom, a baby would have been born. He prevented a child from being born. Does that make him a killer? I, and many others, say no.
Say a woman is killed in a car accident. She could have been a mother, and raised twenty healthy children. Were 21 people killed in the accident? No. The act did not happen.
Want another? Fine.
Cell phones give off radiation. This could cause cancer. Should cell phones be banned because they could kill people?
Nothing is human before it becomes human. A relatively simple concept, no?
Those examples are extreme and focus too much on "if". And I don't play what if; I play what is. A fertile woman dying before her time is not comparable to canceling a foetus. A foetus is a life in process, where sperm cells are just potential lives, ese.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Those examples are extreme and focus too much on "if". And I don't play what if; I play what is. A fertile woman dying before her time is not comparable to canceling a foetus. A foetus is a life in process, where sperm cells are just potential lives, ese.
That's the thing. Who are you to decide that a foetus is a life in process?
I believe that a foetus is a potential human being. You said yourself that the fetus is going to be a person. That means that it is not yet.
Originally posted by crazylozer
You dying is an inevitability. Are you dead?
Dead is a state of no longer living. It has nothing to do with identity or organism classification.
A Feotus is an unborn child which becomes more and more baby like as the time passes. It is human. A Human Being? No... a human being involves an ego, full sentience, and some range of intelligence.
Being Human, however, does not. As long as you are of the SPECIES of human, then you are one. A Feotus falls right under that, as does a human courpse.
Dead or alive...a human is still human. Born or unborn, a human is still human.
Abortion is the killing a human life. When will you learn to accept that? Or better yet, when will you comprise of an argument that actually devalidates that fact?