Abortion

Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
If the life is still physically dependent on another, then the person sustaining the other's life has the choice.

In your opinion, however if that person sustaining the the life is a deaf, mute, quadraplegic, I think society might have the choice if the life being sustained shows no abnormalities. Is the potential perhaps of greater value than the hell at present being lived?

It's all subjective to belief systems anyway, which is why this thread will never achieve consensus. Opinions on both sides are completely entrenched.

I can't believe some people have posted so much on a topic where views will not be swayed.

- FO!!

Originally posted by Flame On!!
This thread just seems to be a circular argument.

- Flame On!!

prolife - abortion is wrong cuz its murder!

prochoice - um, no. its factually not murder. look at the definition of murder

prolife - but you're killing babies!!!

prochoice - no, they are aborting fetuses

prolife - but its HUMAN!!!

prochoice - well, yes, just as your heart, lungs, brain, skin, bones, etc are human. however it is not A human. please dont play the semantics game.

prolife - ok fine, you keep supporting the murder of human babies

prochoice -um, no. its factually not murder

yup....you're right

Originally posted by botankus
Abort the dead from your literacy-challenged signature, and then you shall be allowed to speak.

Stop asking me to do so and maybe I will.JM 🙂

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
Stop asking me to do so and maybe I will.JM 🙂

You are am idiot.

Like that makes sence!jm 🙄 😛

Originally posted by PVS
prolife - abortion is wrong cuz its murder!

prochoice - um, no. its factually not murder. look at the definition of murder

prolife - but you're killing babies!!!

prochoice - no, they are aborting fetuses

prolife - but its HUMAN!!!

prochoice - well, yes, just as your heart, lungs, brain, skin, bones, etc are human. however it is not A human. please dont play the semantics game.

prolife - ok fine, you keep supporting the murder of human babies

prochoice -um, no. its factually not murder

yup....you're right

Obviously a skewed and simplistic version of events, but about right.

One further observation. Why do some people just post the same argument and anti argument in different ways. As it's an argument about "life", don't they have one themelves?

-FO!!

Originally posted by ToMacco
Because I wasn't put on this Earth to play God. Who am I to tell a woman it's right or wrong to have an abortion. That's why I'm pro-choice.

she is playing god by killing the child. and she is selfish if she is aborting it to make her life more comfortable. isn't funny if a woman wants out of her responsibilities all she has to do is get an abortion or give it up for adoption. but we tell guys to man up and pay large sums of money

Originally posted by Flame On!!
Obviously a skewed and simplistic version of events, but about right.

simplistic yes, but skewed? please describe how its skewed.

Originally posted by PVS
simplistic yes, but skewed? please describe how its skewed.

Well someone from a different belief and value system to your own might define things differently. Some Cultures do indeed see life as starting at conception. Your argument is skewed towards a modern western definition of what life is. Is that wrong? Of course not it's where we are. Does it make someone from another culture wrong? Of course not, it's where they are. Morality is subjective as are ethics.

- FO!!

modern definition of fetus and baby is based in science, not culture

I don't like this thread......... ❌

Originally posted by PVS
modern definition of fetus and baby is based in science, not culture

Not exactly the modern western medical and legal definition is based on science. The one in the medical text book is based on science. That's not the modern definitions a myriad of other people in the world use. Science and Culture are linked in the west. They are not in many other places in the world. This is why Religion and Science do not mix on many levels and why this thread can go nowhere.

- FO!!

Originally posted by Flame On!!
In your opinion, however if that person sustaining the the life is a deaf, mute, quadraplegic, I think society might have the choice if the life being sustained shows no abnormalities. Is the potential perhaps of greater value than the hell at present being lived?

Well, that's just a ridiculous scenario that I won't entertain with a rebuttal.

Originally posted by Flame On!!
It's all subjective to belief systems anyway, which is why this thread will never achieve consensus. Opinions on both sides are completely entrenched.

I can't believe some people have posted so much on a topic where views will not be swayed.

I can't make out your point seeing as you're posting in here, too.

Also, there's a whiff of whirly about you. Am I right?

Abortion is a two edged sword...

On one hand you are killing an innocent life. To compare the foetus to a human heart, lung, etc. is foolish, because the foetus in its entirety is already human...it needs no other components...the placenta is not a part of it, it is its life support...

On the other hand, you have women who are not ready to have children, and to FORCE them to give birth is cruel and just as wrong if not worse, than having the abortion itself.

There's no right or wrong...Abortion is a serious issue, with no winners.

prochoice - um, no. its factually not murder. look at the definition of murder

It is the same as proabortion.I have no idea why you think it is different.jm

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
prochoice - um, no. its factually not murder. look at the definition of murder

It is the same as proabortion.I have no idea why you think it is different.jm

Pro Abortion means you think Abortion is a necessity, and should be practiced more often.

Pro Choice means you think it is the woman's right to decide what she is going to do with her pregnancy. You don't have to like Abortion to be pro choice.

I don't like Abortion, I think it's a shame, but I am still pro-choice, because I know I do not have the right to force a woman to give birth when she doesn't want to.

Making abortian legal actually lowers the amount of abortians that happen... Everybody that wants to ban abortians should fight to make it legal 🙂

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
prochoice - um, no. its factually not murder. look at the definition of murder

It is the same as proabortion.I have no idea why you think it is different.jm

just to be clear, the first 2 sentences here are mine. she was trying to quote i guess. the rest is just typical irrelevant brain farting.

Originally posted by Fishy
Making abortian legal actually lowers the amount of abortians that happen... Everybody that wants to ban abortians should fight to make it legal 🙂

That is what I want to do!Make it so it is againt the law.And if people are so selfish and stupid and does it anyway well let them rot in jail for being murders.jm 😠

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
That is what I want to do!Make it so it is againt the law.And if people are so selfish and stupid and does it anyway well let them rot in jail for being murders.jm 😠

So you're against killing foetuses, but you're okay with having people rot in jail ?

Kind of hypocritical, no ?