Abortion

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
A born baby is a human being, as long as it's in the womb, it's not.

Second one; Something that keeps you alive independently outside of the womb.

-AC

I disagree with that. If a man decides he wants to kill a pregneant woman then he is both killing her and the life inside her. He is charged with two accounts of murder. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Well that is true. But that's a case of murder.

*leaves this stupid thread*

I hate this thread....

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Well know you couldn't. The Holocaust was a decision on far more than a personal level,

Personal level or not, what right did the Allies have in interfering with a foreign power? It's none of their business, right?

Originally posted by chillmeistergen

it also affected millions of living breathing human beings. Which cells and foetuses are not.

A Fetus is a potential human being, by killing it your also killing said potential human being. So, in the end it's not really different from killing a full grown human, because you've the same exact thing in a different mannar.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Jesus, what were the other 90% like? JM?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi

yup. graduated in the top 10%.

special ed?

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
A Fetus is a potential human being, by killing it your also killing a potential human. So, in the end it's not really different from killing a full grown human.

This isn't about potential, it's about what it is, when it is.
I could be a potentially great piano player, should I moan that I'm not allowed to perform in huge concerts?

It is technically considered killing because of the fact that you are ceasing the existence of a living organism. And could someone tell me how we jumped from Abortion to the range of students a person graduated into?

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Yes, I know. It said "It's still a potential human life." and "It's not a fully formed foetus.". Correct. It's not ANY kind of foetus when it's cells, though.

So you saying we ASSUME it's not a baby cos it's cells is wrong, we know it isn't, as science proves.

We don't "graduate" here, but it begs my question;

How do you not know that cells are not humans?

I was under the impression it was ok to be wasteful of wicker because you dislike it.

-AC [/B][/QUOTE]

Originally posted by Ashestoashesjc
It is technically considered killing because of the fact that you are ceasing the existence of a living organism. And could someone tell me how we jumped from Abortion to the range of students a person graduated into?

Originally posted by chillmeistergen

I could be a potentially great piano player, should I moan that I'm not allowed to perform in huge concerts?

Potentially becoming a piano player is not the same as a fetus growing into a human.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Potentailly become a piano player is not the same as afetus becoming a human.

It was an example, not a literal comparison, fool. I used it to make a point that potentially being something, doesn't give said thing rights. Why not spend some more time worrying about the people who are already here? Rather than try to limit personal freedom.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Potentially become a piano player is not the same as a fetus growing into a human.

True. Becoming the next mozart pales in comparison to uh...I don't know...living? How can you even compare those two?

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Potentially become a piano player is not the same as a fetus growing into a human.

It is, actually. If you can play the instrument, you could possibly become something greater, something further along the line.

Same with a foetus.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Potential...potential.......P-O-T-E-N-T-I-A-L.......Get it?

Two massively in-depth dictionary schoolings later and you're still confused.

Do YOU get it?

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
It is, actually. If you can play the instrument, you could possibly become something greater, something further along the line.

I mean't in the realm of probability. Which has higher odds: A person regardless or creed, Religion, or nationality becoming a pianist or a a fetus becoming a human?

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
It is, actually. If you can play the instrument, you could possibly become something greater, something further along the line.

Same with a foetus.

Two massively in-depth dictionary schoolings later and you're still confused.

Do YOU get it?

-AC

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
This isn't about potential, it's about what it is, when it is.
I could be a potentially great piano player, should I moan that I'm not allowed to perform in huge concerts?

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
It was an example, not a literal comparison, fool. I used it to make a point that potentially being something, doesn't give said thing rights. Why not spend some more time worrying about the people who are already here? Rather than try to limit personal freedom.

Right, Right So, people should be able to do anything they want with no interfrence or consequence no matter what?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
are you any good at playing the piano?

I'm afraid not.

My point here compared to my point on "Poor people should not have children" was contridictory. There I said that a person born in a poverished environment could grow to be something more, rather than a walking title. Here I said that I'd rather a child not come into existence than be forced to watch them in the same condition as the "Feed the Children" kids. So am I wrong?

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Right, Right So, people should be able to do anything they want with no interfrence or consequence no matter what?

If it doesn't infringe other people's rights or endanger them, then yes. Don't play the card that it infringes the foetus's rights or endangers it, because it's not a person.