Abortion

well...if you're a guy...you have no right to state your mind on this matyter. because...you'll never bear and give birth to a child.
in my opinion. Women are entitled to abortion if they need it. i don't consider it a crime. but...even if i were against it (which i am not), i would NOT blame a woman for resorting to that. it's her own decision.

and no..i don't think the man in the relationship has much of a word to say on it once she made up her mind. The emotional changes are really more intense on the female side...because..as a man..i'll never give birth to anything

i am just anti death that means war abortion capital punsihment all that.

Dexx>> i resent that^ if i am the father i'd say i have as much bearing on this decision as much as the woman who is to bear my child. i respect a woman's right to choose but to say that i have no right to state my mind in this matter is ri-g@ddamn-diculous. what she bears in her womb is my seed and i want to keep it. if she doesn't want any part of it, i will take care of the child and i will take care of her while she's pregnant.

I AM the father of this child and i do have the right to state my mind...

but i would say the ultimate choice would be hers... and it would come with heavy persuasions and desuasions.

I agree with the ATHF guy. manchichtit or something... The father does have a say, but the ultimate decsion is the woman's.

Pro-Life of course for any reason even if it's a rape case i seen someones post in here asking about that. That child could be a blessing even tho that happened.

Death Penalty--- has anyone seen movie: The LIFE of DAVID GALE?? it's a good movie and it's about, you guessed it DEATH penalty--- it's very shocking, and i agree w/yer statement on, You never really KNOW all the facts in a situation for the death penatly to occur.
People do lie, i was watching a program the other day, where this lady and her husband had been in prison for 17 years (well actually the husband was executed so he was in there that long) finally that lady over heard guards talking and smarting off that her husband died and didn't even committ the crime, they later found documents, where the authority knew this but hid the info...it was the officeers involved in the case that actually did it. Yet, it didn't bring her husband back or her life back that she loss and her kids that didn't have a mom for 17 yrs. Now thats horrible.

Even if it was a rape?!

You cant be serious! A mother has to look at that child for the rest of her life and remember the experiance of some man raping her!

Some women cannot bare that, you know.

And there isnt only an issue of rape, what about children with serious illnesses and mental disorders? Would you bring a child into the world you KNOW is going to be retarded? I dont think so.

Not only that, but the child would lead a life of suffering anyway, if the mother can't provide. yea yea, that stupid argument about foster homes and shit, but there are not too many people who are actually happy to be in foster homes. On top of that, if you give the child away, he starts to feel like he is unwanted.

Why would you purposely make a child suffer?

If a woman couldn't handle it, cuz yeah to some it would be unbearable, then why not put it up for an adoption? Why kill the baby cuz of the rape? It's not the babys fault, the baby is innocent. I don't thk it's fair to kill the baby. I do believe it's murder, you can feel the heart beat at 18 days i thk, it's been awhile since i've read "the diary of an unborn child" anyways..the baby is alive and growing. I just disagree w/it. even if known birthdefects.

Originally posted by manchichirtchit
Dexx>> i resent that^ if i am the father i'd say i have as much bearing on this decision as much as the woman who is to bear my child. i respect a woman's right to choose but to say that i have no right to state my mind in this matter is ri-g@ddamn-diculous. what she bears in her womb is my seed and i want to keep it. if she doesn't want any part of it, i will take care of the child and i will take care of her while she's pregnant.

I AM the father of this child and i do have the right to state my mind...

but i would say the ultimate choice would be hers... and it would come with heavy persuasions and desuasions.

what i'm saying is that the woman should have the bigger part of this decision.

i do thk the man has a right, I mean we couldn't have kids w/o the man, even if you go to the dr to get it put in you, it's still used from a man.

Originally posted by Fiery Eyes
If a woman couldn't handle it, cuz yeah to some it would be unbearable, then why not put it up for an adoption? Why kill the baby cuz of the rape? It's not the babys fault, the baby is innocent. I don't thk it's fair to kill the baby. I do believe it's murder, you can feel the heart beat at 18 days i thk, it's been awhile since i've read "the diary of an unborn child" anyways..the baby is alive and growing. I just disagree w/it. even if known birthdefects.

Even with birth effects?

Like already said, why would you purposly make baby suffer? Thats pretty selfish you know.

Im against the murder, of course i am, but the world you living is black and white, the real world, fortunately isnt so.

No, i don't thk everything is just black or white. My question to you would be, what did that baby do to get killed? (rape)?

Originally posted by Fiery Eyes
If a woman couldn't handle it, cuz yeah to some it would be unbearable, then why not put it up for an adoption? Why kill the baby cuz of the rape? It's not the babys fault, the baby is innocent. I don't thk it's fair to kill the baby. I do believe it's murder, you can feel the heart beat at 18 days i thk, it's been awhile since i've read "the diary of an unborn child" anyways..the baby is alive and growing. I just disagree w/it. even if known birthdefects.

But there are so many other things that could be wrong with the mother if she had the child. Sometimes the mother doesn't know how to put a child up for adoption or they wish to keep the child. But they don't always have the money to help raise the child right.

I believe that a person should at least have a choice to do what they want, because not everybodys beliefs are the same so the choice should still be open for those who think it is right. For those who do not think that abortion is right, then they will not take the abortion road.

To me murder is murder, how can you kill a baby, alive being w/a heart beat, body starting to grow, i just thk those other things are trival when it come to a human life.

so you guys are saying you would rather die rather than being in foster care.ok

I just believe the choice should be there for those whose beliefs arn't effected by this

I dont see why anyone she be given the choice to kill.

When do you believe when life starts?

when you take a pregnacy test and it says positive, when YOU know you're pregnant. It's a life in your growing in you. What if ...this is to everyone that believes in abortion: what if your mom would have aborted you?

Personally I don't think life begins until you are out of the womb. Until then, you are a developing fetus inside the body of a mother organism, if you want it the hard way. But I still think there should be a hefty reason before even making the decision. 😬