Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
i was asking about current marvel.
the scan is from 2016 which is after secret wars where the reboot was made and the multiverse went from being the seventh cosmos to the eighth, although the stories belong to comics that were published much earlier, but there are still infinite multiverses within the greater whole that is the omniverse, I'm sure in ultimates 2, we saw higher realms outside the multiverse and recently in defenders beyond #2 we discovered that the beyond realm is outside the multiverse and that even the WHR is a higher dimension.
Originally posted by abhilegend
52 universes are a thing of the past since Infinite Frontier.
But the Multiverse itself exist just as it did before with number designations and everything.
- Infinite Frontier #2
Originally posted by Astner
No, when the Source Wall was destroyed it exposed the Multiverse to the rest of the Omniverse which is said to be infinite.But the Multiverse itself exist just as it did before with number designations and everything.
- Infinite Frontier #2
Why do you keep up this shit even after you've been corrected multiple times?
Multiverse had new Earths growing after its resurrection.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Why do you keep up this shit even after you've been corrected multiple times?Multiverse had new Earths growing after its resurrection.
Originally posted by abhilegend
"Multiverse expanding without limit"Infinite Frontier 0.
Its even stated directly for dummies too thick to understand that where there was only 52 universes, there are now countless without any boundaries. In the multiverse.
"This new multiverse is infinite"
It couldn't be clearer
Originally posted by MrMind
local multiverse
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
If I had a fenced off area in a forest, and that fence one day was destroyed.... surely it's all one forest now?
But when I say "multiverse" I'm refering to that which was inside the Source Wall, and when I say "omniverse" I'm referring to the multiverse as well as that which exist outside it.
In this sense the multiverse is finite, and the omniverse is (arguably) infinite.
However what MrMind is doing is that he's trying to separate the multiverse and the omniverse, apply the characteristics of the omniverse to the multiverse, to then argue that he multiverse is still embedded in the omniverse.
Originally posted by Astner
Are you being obtuse on purpose? The context of your scans specifically refers to the omniverse. Them calling the omniverse it "the multiverse" because there's no Source Wall separating the two anymore doesn't change anything. The Multiverse Map is still a thing, if it wasn't they wouldn't be using it anymore.
They're literally telling about omniverse as having infinite multiverseS in the very same scan, are you unable to read or something?
Multiverse is expanding and new multiverses are being born to create an infinite Web of multiverses. I mean come the **** on.
Originally posted by Astner
You can certainly refer to the omniverse as a multiverse if you want (I mean the comics do it). It's just semantics so it doesn't really change anything.But when I say "multiverse" I'm refering to that which was inside the Source Wall, and when I say "omniverse" I'm referring to the multiverse as well as that which exist outside it.
In this sense the multiverse is finite, and the omniverse is (arguably) infinite.
However what MrMind is doing is that he's trying to separate the multiverse and the omniverse, apply the characteristics of the omniverse to the multiverse, to then argue that he multiverse is still embedded in the omniverse.
You're right, it's semantics.
Because how this entire debate started, was that Mind said the Presence created a larger Omniverse than Marvel's, which somehow got twisted into now.... Multiverse?
But since we all agree that DC is an Omniverse, we have multiple scans saying that it's infinite, so.....what's the issue?
Edit: the only thing is that Mind was wrong (maybe?) In saying theNil Monitors saw the Multiverse as infinite.
new genesis alone view mortal universes as size of bubbles
nil is far far above new genesis in scale who in term is far above the third dimensional main multiverse
where does it's only 52 universes come from? 52 universes are the known universes that's been explored, kinda like marvel used to have infinite universes but even then we only get introduced like 50-60 of them
does that make sense?
Originally posted by Astner
No one is denying that there are multiple multiverses in the omniverse,
Originally posted by abhilegend
They're literally telling about omniverse as having infinite multiverseS
Originally posted by MrMind
infinite multiverses, im gonna have a field day with this
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
You're right, it's semantics.Because how this entire debate started, was that Mind said the Presence created a larger Omniverse than Marvel's, which somehow got twisted into now.... Multiverse?
But since we all agree that DC is an Omniverse, we have multiple scans saying that it's infinite, so.....what's the issue?
Keep in mind that the word infinity can be used both figuratively and literally. In other words you can use the word infinity to describe something finite, e.g.
So the word "infinity" (regardless of how many times it's repeated) does not enforce a literal reading of it. For a literal reading of it proper context eliminating a figurative reading of it required.
