Originally posted by carver9
Maybe you're having a hard time understanding things. Thor have BETTER cheese fts than Thanos and even with those cheese fts, Thor still gets stomped to sleep by Thanos. This doesn't have a thing to do with which company both are from. I'm telling you that, if we look at cheesy fts, something Thanos obviously have no reason to do, of course Superman (or Thor or Wonder Woman or Captain Marvel) wins. Do you get it now?
How's Rogol Zaar arbitrarily on Thanos level you goon?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Maybe you are even a bigger idiot than I thought but Thor is in the same company as Thanos, you absolutely retarded idiot. Superman isn't, the only way to compare him with Thanos is feats.How's Rogol Zaar arbitrarily on Thanos level you goon?
This is just sad. The way we compare the two is based off who they've fought and defeated. Example, we know Titus can beat Thor due to him stomping the JLA and almost killing Superman in a single hit. He doesn't have lifting fts, none of that crap. His fight against the JLA is all that's needed "even though they are from different companies". Why are you like this?
Zaar isn't on Thanos level, lmao.
Originally posted by carver9
This is just sad. The way we compare the two is based off who they've fought and defeated. Example, we know Titus can beat Thor due to him stomping the JLA and almost killing Superman in a single hit. He doesn't have lifting fts, none of that crap. His fight against the JLA is all that's needed "even though they are from different companies". Why are you like this?Zaar isn't on Thanos level, lmao.
That ignores PIS, though, which we know happens in comics all the time.
Comic fights do not equal forum fights. Does Gorilla Grodd solo Marvel, because he's fast enough to take out the Flash, who is fast enough to beat Death?
Originally posted by carver9
This is just sad. The way we compare the two is based off who they've fought and defeated. Example, we know Titus can beat Thor due to him stomping the JLA and almost killing Superman in a single hit. He doesn't have lifting fts, none of that crap. His fight against the JLA is all that's needed "even though they are from different companies". Why are you like this?Zaar isn't on Thanos level, lmao.
Bring Thor and Thanos feats if you think they can compare with Superman, not this retarded shit.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Because he scales off Superman's feats, not that Titus is randomly Thanos level because what the **** you're talking about?Bring Thor and Thanos feats if you think they can compare with Superman, not this retarded shit.
Why is Zaar on a whole different level above Thanos? Anyone can answer that question if they’d like. I’m not really seeing how he is.
Originally posted by Sin I AMWe are talking about power levels, not style of fighting. How strong would character A be in comparison to character B when both are from different companies (ABC logic is impossible).
Cheese feats alone don't really count in a debate. You should use the character's personality, there fight record, relative performances combined to determine how they'd handle another character.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Because Superman is above Thanos at this point
How do you make that determination? Zaar most certainly isn’t above Thanos at any point. When we talk standard fight, we don’t go out of character for any of them. Standard non sun amped Superman has had trouble with far less than Thanos.
Originally posted by h1a8
We are talking about power levels, not style of fighting. How strong would character A be in comparison to character B when both are from different companies (ABC logic is impossible).
Power levels, fighting style, and character all play part in making a determination. Superman and Zaar shook the Phantom Zone, which is a prison. Do we know how much force it would take to do that?
Originally posted by Stoic
How do you make that determination? Zaar most certainly isn’t above Thanos at any point. When we talk standard fight, we don’t go out of character for any of them. Standard non sun amped Superman has had trouble with far less than Thanos.Power levels, fighting style, and character all play part in making a determination. Superman and Zaar shook the Phantom Zone, which is a prison. Do we know how much force it would take to do that?
Quantifiable cheese feats only.
Rule 1: Never defend any position NO ONE IS ARGUING AGAINST.
There was no need to mention anything other than attribute levels (like strength). Everyone here agrees on fighting style and character.
So you agree that when trying to compare the strength of two characters across different companies quantifiable strength feats are used?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Because he scales off Superman's feats, not that Titus is randomly Thanos level because what the **** you're talking about?Bring Thor and Thanos feats if you think they can compare with Superman, not this retarded shit.
2 people are saying 2 different things. Dark is saying PIS and you're saying Titus gets Superman fts because he beat him. So you're basically saying Titus before his upgrades are faster, more durable, etc... than Supes. Does this apply to anyone whom defeated him and again, Superman have as of yet to defeat someone on Thanos caliber without any outside amps and you're basically telling me that even though he hasn't done that, I should presume he could because he played chess at super speed.
I already mentioned Thanos fts. His fights are far more impressive.
Originally posted by Stoic
How do you make that determination? Zaar most certainly isn’t above Thanos at any point. When we talk standard fight, we don’t go out of character for any of them. Standard non sun amped Superman has had trouble with far less than Thanos.Power levels, fighting style, and character all play part in making a determination. Superman and Zaar shook the Phantom Zone, which is a prison. Do we know how much force it would take to do that?
Originally posted by carver9
2 people are saying 2 different things. Dark is saying PIS and you're saying Titus gets Superman fts because he beat him. So you're basically saying Titus before his upgrades are faster, more durable, etc... than Supes. Does this apply to anyone whom defeated him and again, Superman have as of yet to defeat someone on Thanos caliber without any outside amps and you're basically telling me that even though he hasn't done that, I should presume he could because he played chess at super speed.I already mentioned Thanos fts. His fights are far more impressive.
Originally posted by carver9Then start posting Thor feats. Or feats of other people you can make a case Thanos is consistently above. And then see how they compare to Superman's feats or those he is consistently above (though Superman has such a huge feat history his will most likely be used).
Maybe you're having a hard time understanding things. Thor have BETTER cheese fts than Thanos
Anyway, Superman beats the living piss out of Thanos for the same reason he does most Marvel heroes and villains: he is orders of magnitude faster. Say it with me everyone: Marvel characters are slow. Marvel is a company where top heralds like Thor (well he used to be one lol) or team busters like Thanos will consistently and explicitly have trouble dealing with a street leveler's speed. And you know what? It's probably better that way because you can more easily write a big expanded universe (these are shit by the way stop doing them) without having to rely on PIS to justify a speedster like Flash or Superman not effortlessly solving whatever problem is being faced. Sure you can point every now and then a showing where Superman didn't use his speed and someone got the drop on him and it didn't make sense. But it is by comparison extremely rare for one of these characters to be explicitly faster than Superman. It isn't rare at all for phucking Wolverine or Spider-man to be faster than Thor.
But in a versus debate it makes most of Marvel's characters woefully unequipped to deal with DC's where flying bricks with super speed are the norm and almost everyone has explicit super speed.
Superman at this point also scales beyond Thanos in brute strength so the beating will just be that much worse.
Originally posted by carver9
2 people are saying 2 different things. Dark is saying PIS and you're saying Titus gets Superman fts because he beat him. So you're basically saying Titus before his upgrades are faster, more durable, etc... than Supes. Does this apply to anyone whom defeated him and again, Superman have as of yet to defeat someone on Thanos caliber without any outside amps and you're basically telling me that even though he hasn't done that, I should presume he could because he played chess at super speed.I already mentioned Thanos fts. His fights are far more impressive.
I'm saying PIS exists in comics, which throws some fights into doubt; how is this a difficult concept to grasp?
Tell me, do Flash's Rogues solo Marvel?
Originally posted by NemeBro👆 and not just Superspeed but superseded, reactions and conscious control.
Then start posting Thor feats. Or feats of other people you can make a case Thanos is consistently above. And then see how they compare to Superman's feats or those he is consistently above (though Superman has such a huge feat history his will most likely be used).Anyway, Superman beats the living piss out of Thanos for the same reason he does most Marvel heroes and villains: he is orders of magnitude faster. Say it with me everyone: Marvel characters are slow. Marvel is a company where top heralds like Thor (well he used to be one lol) or team busters like Thanos will consistently and explicitly have trouble dealing with a street leveler's speed. And you know what? It's probably better that way because you can more easily write a big expanded universe (these are shit by the way stop doing them) without having to rely on PIS to justify a speedster like Flash or Superman not effortlessly solving whatever problem is being faced. Sure you can point every now and then a showing where Superman didn't use his speed and someone got the drop on him and it didn't make sense. But it is by comparison extremely rare for one of these characters to be explicitly faster than Superman. It isn't rare at all for phucking Wolverine or Spider-man to be faster than Thor.
But in a versus debate it makes most of Marvel's characters woefully unequipped to deal with DC's where flying bricks with super speed are the norm and almost everyone has explicit super speed.
Superman at this point also scales beyond Thanos in brute strength so the beating will just be that much worse.
Superman also has insane energy projection that is hotter than a star.